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eefanincan
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| Mandy wrote: | | I meant that the news is so full of real hurt and real injury, which ALSO leads to injury to feeling, that giving millions in damages for "just" injury to feelings is a sick joke. |
I don't follow your logic. You keep saying "real hurt and real injury".... why is it that injury to feeling has to come after physical injury, or is any less important? "Just" injury to feelings really minimizes any emotional trauma that those individuals went through. It can be far more scarring than any physical injury and I fail to see why a monetary award for it is any less valid than an award for physical injuries. I can't agree with your statement of calling it a "sick joke." |
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nekokate
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree - mental trauma is much worse than physical. I was bullied all through school and I would have given anything for them to just punch me everyday instead. |
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Mandy
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| Skylace wrote: | | Mandy wrote: | 30% to 50% probably goes to lawyers if they were hired on a contingency basis, else if on a straight fee basis then probaly $100,000 - $1M would go to lawyers.
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30% to 50%? Most lawyers in these cases take 60% to 80% depending on if they were paid before. That's why you even see the ads on TV "no fee unless you win". A lot of lawyers on these big cases will take a retainer fee (and not a large one) and then not be paid until after the case. So if you win, they take more than 50%. |
Skylace, do you have any references or cases to substantiate 60-80%
My contention is supported by http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-article-a-1590-m-1-sc-11-typical_legal_fee_arrangements-i
which says contingency fees are typically one third. |
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Mandy
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| eefanincan wrote: | | Mandy wrote: | | I meant that the news is so full of real hurt and real injury, which ALSO leads to injury to feeling, that giving millions in damages for "just" injury to feelings is a sick joke. |
I don't follow your logic. You keep saying "real hurt and real injury".... why is it that injury to feeling has to come after physical injury, or is any less important? "Just" injury to feelings really minimizes any emotional trauma that those individuals went through. It can be far more scarring than any physical injury and I fail to see why a monetary award for it is any less valid than an award for physical injuries. I can't agree with your statement of calling it a "sick joke." |
If the damages of $10m is justified for the person who sued, then damages of $100M+ is justified for people who had BOTH physical and mental injury. The British soldiers only got £100,000 (less lawyer's fees) each on average .. that is RACISM.
That is why this damages amount is a JOKE .. it is an insult to everyone who is a minority (or a non-US citizen) who interacts with the US justice system |
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nekokate
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Mandy wrote: | | If the damages of $10m is justified for the person who sued, then damages of $100M+ is justified for people who had BOTH physical and mental injury. The British soldiers only got £100,000 (less lawyer's fees) each on average .. that is RACISM. |
Calm down, I don't think "Soldier" is a race yet.
"Is it 'cos I is Soldierish?" |
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Skylace
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Mandy wrote: | | Skylace wrote: | | Mandy wrote: | 30% to 50% probably goes to lawyers if they were hired on a contingency basis, else if on a straight fee basis then probaly $100,000 - $1M would go to lawyers.
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30% to 50%? Most lawyers in these cases take 60% to 80% depending on if they were paid before. That's why you even see the ads on TV "no fee unless you win". A lot of lawyers on these big cases will take a retainer fee (and not a large one) and then not be paid until after the case. So if you win, they take more than 50%. |
Skylace, do you have any references or cases to substantiate 60-80%
My contention is supported by http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-article-a-1590-m-1-sc-11-typical_legal_fee_arrangements-i
which says contingency fees are typically one third. |
Not cases that would be online but my father worked closely with lawyers and I know quite a few. They take a big chunk of the money. That is why you hear about a lot of people walking out of cases with not much because of legal fees. |
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eefanincan
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| nekokate wrote: |
Calm down, I don't think "Soldier" is a race yet. |
A good point, kate! |
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faceless
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Good stuff - the more nutters who are refused platforms the better. |
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SpursFan1902
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Too bad they can't be banned from comming back. But, in fairness, they have the right to believe what they want and I have the right not to agree and not to listen. They are offensive to be sure and I think that they are quite possibly insane, but I don't have to agree with them, I just have to have a remote to change the channel or a window to close so that I don't hear them. If they start hurting people, then they should be killed...oh,..urm, I mean stopped. |
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Skylace
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| SpursFan1902 wrote: | | Too bad they can't be banned from comming back. But, in fairness, they have the right to believe what they want and I have the right not to agree and not to listen. They are offensive to be sure and I think that they are quite possibly insane, but I don't have to agree with them, I just have to have a remote to change the channel or a window to close so that I don't hear them. If they start hurting people, then they should be killed...oh,..urm, I mean stopped. |
Couldn't have said it better myself  |
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faceless
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| What if they're standing outside your house waving their banners and hurling abuse at your family whenever they go outside? |
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Skylace
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| That's harassment and something totally different then being able to change a channel. |
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faceless
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| But that's exactly the type of thing that these people do. And that's why I'm glad they've been banned. |
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Skylace
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm glad they have been banned as well. |
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SpursFan1902
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Don't get me wrong...I am glad they have been banned as well. If you notice the first line of my post is "Too bad they can't be banned from coming back". I don't wnat them here anymore than you guys want them, but they have the right to their own opinion. As to the question of them abusing my family in my front yard...well, I would be posting from jail after kicking their a$$e$. They can have their own opinion, but in my front yard, their own opinion is what ever I tell them it is!!  |
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