Look into the eyes

maycm · Post by **maycm** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:03 pm

Look into the eyes not around the eyes into the eyes....and....you're under.

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nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:38 pm

pirtybirdy · Post by **pirtybirdy** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:51 pm

Oh my goodness, is this all for real? LOL!!

Post by **Skylace** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:04 pm

My goodness! You wouldn't think a thing like this would actually happen.

Post by **eefanincan** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:25 pm

Skylace wrote:My goodness! You wouldn't think a thing like this would actually happen.

I wouldn't think so.... more like they were distracted rather than hypnotized. Someone has to pretty much be willing and open to suggestion to be hypnotized.

Post by **Skylace** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:32 pm

eefanincan wrote:
Skylace wrote:My goodness! You wouldn't think a thing like this would actually happen.
I wouldn't think so.... more like they were distracted rather than hypnotized. Someone has to pretty much be willing and open to suggestion to be hypnotized.

See, that's what I was thinking as well. Not everyone can be hypnotized so for this to happen really doesn't make sense

Post by **faceless** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:42 pm

People get into almost trance-like states when they're doing a repetitive job, so maybe that helps...

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:26 pm

There's much more to this than is immediately obvious. That's exactly why it works.

If everyone knew about neurolinguistic programming and verbal suggestion then it wouldn't be possible for experts to use it.

And the word "hypnotised" is also widely misunderstood. You don't have to be totally under someone's control and have pinwheel eyes like in The Jungle Book to be under hypnosis. Begging is a form of hypnosis. Saying "please, please" until someone goes "oh, ok" - that's hypnosis.

After years of study, it's perfectly understandable that someone could go into a store and ask someone to open the register and give them cash.

Griffo · Post by **Griffo** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:24 am

Maybe it's a big scam any they're all in on it

Man goes in, cashier pretends to be hypnotized. Cut of the cash please

maycm · Post by **maycm** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:59 am

Cripes, thats unbelievable Kate - I still find it incredible that people so used to handling cash can be fooled without there being something else going on.

The incident with the jewellry struck me most. The guy flicked through the money and seemed to inpect it, and when you consider any normal transaction and he would have actually counted out $4500 to confirm it was correct leads me to think there was a reason that he believed it was precisely correct and no change was required.

I suspect the video was edited to remove any clues as to how it was done, if indeed it was genuine. The more I see shows about how the "big" tricks are performed, with apparantly inpartial audiences being populated by actors in on the trick, the more I suspect things like this too - but you are far more in touch with the subject that me.

I hope he took the goods back (or at least paid for them)!!

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:01 pm

maycm wrote:Cripes, thats unbelievable Kate - I still find it incredible that people so used to handling cash can be fooled without there being something else going on.

The incident with the jewellry struck me most. The guy flicked through the money and seemed to inpect it, and when you consider any normal transaction and he would have actually counted out $4500 to confirm it was correct leads me to think there was a reason that he believed it was precisely correct and no change was required.

I suspect the video was edited to remove any clues as to how it was done, if indeed it was genuine. The more I see shows about how the "big" tricks are performed, with apparantly inpartial audiences being populated by actors in on the trick, the more I suspect things like this too - but you are far more in touch with the subject that me.

I hope he took the goods back (or at least paid for them)!!

Well, Derren insists he never uses "stooges", and I have no reason to doubt him. The amount of stuff he's done by now, he'd have to be paying these people a lot of money to keep quiet if they were actors, because now that he's worth millions their story could destroy his entire career.

Look up NLP, and you'll see what it's basically about. Also, if you watch the video of the jewellery store, Derren talks about not wanting to get the subway train and just as he hands the fake money over he says "take it, take it, it's fine". That's not all there is to it, of course, but it's about getting people to complete circuits on a cerebral rather than a physical level, so they "feel" as though what's happening is natural.

The hypnotism works better on some people than others. I'd be willing to bet that there are people out there who Derren Brown could hand a rubber chicken to and they'd accept it as money, but that hot-dog vendor wasn't having any of it!