It fucks me off when people talk about 'bikers' or 'goths' or 'punks' or what the hell ever, as being violent and dangerous. It's normally those kinds of people who are totally civil. I've walked through gangs of punks and goths and bikers in my time and felt totally safe... it's when I walk through a bunch of chavs I start soiling myself.
I'd probably try and avoid them here as they act like a bunch of randy school children when they see a bit of leg. I walked passed some in a carpark a few months back and had all these nasty comments and sounds made towards me. I didn't feel comfy with telling them to feck off so had to put up with it, then getting the same shite on the way back to the car about made me want to beat them with baseball bats but put up with it.
They're a bunch of scumbuckets in numbers but if any of them were alone I'm sure they'd not say shite. It's all about one-upping each other I reckon. Either way...I'd rather walk by punks and goths any day. If they said anything I'd not hesitate to give them a verbal beating.
It boils down to the individuals and not the affiliation in my opinion. I used to party with a group of "bikers" and some were dicks and others were giant teddy bears. Same with punks. The groups I ran with, some were dicks and some were not.