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Salim201
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| i e-mailed finkelstein about the debate and the event in norway i'm going to, he said he avoided watching it and he didn't like the format or his interventions! i thought it was quite good though.. |
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luke
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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thanks faceless nice one 
it was good but not really long enough, they didn't really have time to get into it in any depth - finkelstein a few times tried to talk about real examples but never really got the chance, i mean at the end you didn't really come away with anything new or an understanding of how the lobby actually works based on any evidence - or if not down to the lobbys influence, how come the coverage we're given is so biased?
i guess you'd need a whole weekend for the kinda show i'm thinking 
did the debate change anyones views in any way? |
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Salim201
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| The point about the EU following the line of the US in isolating the Palestinian authorities was interesting, as there is no ostensibly strong lobby influence in Europe.. |
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Mandy
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Salim201 wrote: | | The point about the EU following the line of the US in isolating the Palestinian authorities was interesting, as there is no ostensibly strong lobby influence in Europe.. |
With poodles like Blair following Bush, who needs another lobby in Europe. |
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Salim201
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| that doesn't explain countries like France and Germany, who clearly don't always follow the US.. |
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Mandy
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: |
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| Salim201 wrote: | | that doesn't explain countries like France and Germany, who clearly don't always follow the US.. |
Sometimes feels like Good Cop / Bad Cop act.
Seeing how Nato is in Afghanistan now, allowing the US to increase its involvement in Iraq, they are playing "follow my leader" |
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DavidGig
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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For Finkelstein fans, DemocracyNow! ran a good 30 min. discussion of his tenure battles--
https://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/09/1514221
| Quote: | RAUL HILBERG: And it was clear to me already years ago that some campaigns were launched -- from what sector, I didn't know -- to remove him from the academic world. Years ago, I got a phone call from someone who was in charge of a survivors' group in California who told me that Finkelstein had been ousted from a job in New York City at a university -- actually, a college there -- and this was done under pressure.
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And whether he’s being intimidated, whether he is in a situation where, whatever else may be happening, the employers are being intimidated, it’s hard for me to say, but there is very clearly a campaign, which was made very obvious in the Wall Street Journal, when Professor Dershowitz wrote in a style which is highly uncharacteristic of the editorial page of this newspaper. |
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Mandy
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks David. I was about to post same article .. but you beat me [and https://whatreallyhappened.com/] by a few days. |
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Mandy
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: Doha Debates - The Palestinian Right Of Return |
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| faceless wrote: | | It features Ilan Pappe on the panel and looks like it's going to be very interesting. |
FYI, Ilan Pappe is talking at a Charity dinner in London on 17 May:
https://www.map-uk.org/pages/MAP_events.html |
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luke
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| Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Doha Debates features Fatah and Hamas debating reconciliation and the future of the resistance
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major.tom
Macho Business Donkey Wrestler
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Location: BC, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| I'll be watching that, Luke. In case anyone is interested, there's a direct d/l link here. |
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