U.S. spies on it's own soldiers

Post by **Skylace** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:12 pm

[web]https://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/09/spying ... topstories[/web]

And for those who say it's the government doing what they need to do to protect us and we should just let them do it in these troubled times. I simply quote Ben Franklin:
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Post by **faceless** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:32 pm

"as long as one party to the call is a terror suspect." - so you don't need to be guilty of anything, but if someone suggests that you're a suspect, that's it... no chance of the system being played there at all!

ItzMeRon · Post by **ItzMeRon** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:49 am

I know his quote as this:

"Any society that would give up a little bit of liberity for a little bit of security would deserve neither and lose both."

But either way you slice it, you are correct.

The outstanding point is that people do not take this seriously at all.

pirtybirdy · Post by **pirtybirdy** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:17 am

It says it's an allegation right now, and is being investigated. I'll believe it when it's backed up with facts. Right now, it's an accusation, and we know how easy it is to make accusations.

Post by **Skylace** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:36 am

ItzMeRon wrote:I know his quote as this:

"Any society that would give up a little bit of liberity for a little bit of security would deserve neither and lose both."

But either way you slice it, you are correct.

The outstanding point is that people do not take this seriously at all.

Yes, but the actual quote is as I stated above

Hate to say it but when he spoke he wouldn't say things like "little bit" an especially not more than once.
(the quote is taken from written record of Franklin's Contributions to the Conference on February 17 (III) Fri, Feb 17, 1775)

However, it is the same idea, just misquoted. Play it again Sam.

ItzMeRon · Post by **ItzMeRon** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:22 am

ItzMeRon · Post by **ItzMeRon** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:43 am