Saudi Rape Victim Gets 200 Lashes and Jail

Post by **faceless** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:23 pm

one guy amongst thousands of religious freaks demanding punishment over the naming of a teddy bear... they're all idiots - to the last.

I blame the local imams who have clearly ordered this though.

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:26 pm

faceless wrote:one guy amongst thousands of religious freaks demanding punishment over the naming of a teddy bear... they're all idiots - to the last.

Be careful .. the BBC propaganda is seeping through : "religious freaks", "idiots", "blame the local imams" etc.

After the west's involvement with Darfur (UN resolutions etc) the protests are more about the whole situation than a teddy bear - where the issue is that it is a teacher from Britain. In other times, she might have been called a missionary, or confused with one.

Did the BBC report give the name of the school ?

Post by **faceless** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:30 pm

they are religious freaks and I don't need to be influenced by any media source to see that. Unless they are protesting about something else entirely then this is a total embarassment for them and for normal Muslims.

They are zealous, idiotic, religious freaks who should have something better to do with their time than worry about a minor cultural faux-pas.

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:32 pm

The BBC has just updated the page :

Sudan demo over jailed UK teacher

Crowds of people have marched in the Sudanese capital Khartoum to call for a tougher sentence for a UK teacher jailed for insulting religion.

This is a LONG WAY from the original report, which thanks to my earlier copy/paste said :

"Shoot UK teacher, say protesters"

"Thousands of people have marched in the Sudanese capital Khartoum to call for UK teacher Gillian Gibbons to be shot."

How can the BBC have any credibility after such a big change in story ?

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:35 pm

faceless wrote:Unless they are protesting about something else entirely

That's my point, we can't trust the BBC report which goes from thousands calling for shooting Gillian, to calling for a tougher sentence.

It is a small hop from here to protesting over Western interference.

Post by **faceless** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:41 pm

Well I'm sure the banners could be translated easily enough by someone who speaks Arabic.

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:45 pm

faceless wrote:Well I'm sure the banners could be translated easily enough by someone who speaks Arabic.

At 56 seconds into the video, the Iman I believe clearly says "Israel" : WATCH

This is not something which the report mentions.

p.s. Reports ends that the conditions in prison are reported as POOR. How could Britain complain about other people's prisions ? From the people who brought you Abu Ghraib. Britain's own prisons are overflowing and poor.

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:54 pm

Mandy wrote:The BBC has just updated the page :

Sudan demo over jailed UK teacher

Crowds of people have marched in the Sudanese capital Khartoum to call for a tougher sentence for a UK teacher jailed for insulting religion.

This is a LONG WAY from the original report, which thanks to my earlier copy/paste said :
"Shoot UK teacher, say protesters"

"Thousands of people have marched in the Sudanese capital Khartoum to call for UK teacher Gillian Gibbons to be shot."
How can the BBC have any credibility after such a big change in story ?

WOW. That is obscene. Especially to change it without referencing the change and apologising for the first version.

I just KNOW there will be so many people who will still talk about this march from the POV of the first report.

They should call this sort of thing an "Ahmadinejadism". Wrongly report something to favour your own bias, and then tone it down after a few hours in the knowledge that not many people will take heed of the correction.

Post by **faceless** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:44 am

but how many people would have seen the news in the daytime hours between when the original overinflated story and the less damning one were posted?

I've posted many things on here in the heat of the moment and then (mostly) changed it before anyone saw - but then again I'm not the government funded media source for Britain.

I remember back when News 24 started that you could almost be guaranteed the truth in most news reports if you watched late night, when they either didn't have a more challenging editor or it was considered ok to let some genuine facts out. It was great - stories would be read from newsfeeds as they happened, then by about 8am they were miraculously tidied up into something more manageable.

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:12 am

Good points. This is a long way from when I felt I could trust the "BBC World Service". The mass media is now the facilitator of wars and spreading propaganda : See Luke's posting on https://couchtripper.com/forum2/viewtopi ... 3&start=30 "The cyber guardians of honest journalism"

They seem to be reading from a script :

https://www.guardian.co.uk/sudan/story/0 ... ss&feed=12
"Sword-waving protesters call for death of teacher who named a bear Muhammad"
"More than 1,000 Muslim demonstrators in the Sudanese capital called for her to be shot or stabbed for insulting Islam after her pupils called a teddy bear Muhammad."

They could be being fed the same story by the same biased source/reporter who originated the story.

This is all still incitement. Playing to a far-right audience.

Post by **faceless** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:27 pm

You don't need to be far-right not to like religious extremists. In fact, they ARE the far-right in this sense.

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:16 pm

faceless wrote:You don't need to be far-right not to like religious extremists. In fact, they ARE the far-right in this sense.

Exactly. I hate all religious extremists, regardless of colour, nationality, or faith. Every single one of them does nothing but help fuel the arguments of those who are on the atheist extreme.

Post by **faceless** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:47 pm

[web]https://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/arti ... to=newsnow&[/web]

some photos of the demonstration

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:17 pm

I see one knife (possibly 2). Wonder how they justify their claim re Thousands ..

Post by **eefanincan** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:49 pm

Saudi Rape Victim now pardoned:

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