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Agree - anybody signing up to reality TV opens up their life to investigation my everybody - media and beyond. Whether you like it or not, you sign away your privacy.

Glad I'm not on it.

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faceless wrote:
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erm no. She didn't 'sell her soul' but signed up to be on a reality tv show.
same thing

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I don't agree with you at all as that's taking it to the extreme. I suppose we can agree to disagreeing on this!
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Fredgremlin wrote:Agree - anybody signing up to reality TV opens up their life to investigation my everybody - media and beyond. Whether you like it or not, you sign away your privacy.

Glad I'm not on it.

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You don't sign away your privacy. That liberty is taken by the press who only think they've a right to it. It's what sells network time and newspapers.
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IRiSHMaFIA wrote:
faceless wrote:
IRiSHMaFIA wrote:
erm no. She didn't 'sell her soul' but signed up to be on a reality tv show.
same thing

8)
I don't agree with you at all as that's taking it to the extreme. I suppose we can agree to disagreeing on this!
but isn't allowing the viewing public to see every aspect of your character the same as selling your soul?
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faceless wrote:
IRiSHMaFIA wrote:
faceless wrote:
IRiSHMaFIA wrote:
erm no. She didn't 'sell her soul' but signed up to be on a reality tv show.
same thing

8)
I don't agree with you at all as that's taking it to the extreme. I suppose we can agree to disagreeing on this!
but isn't allowing the viewing public to see every aspect of your character the same as selling your soul?
Not in the slightest. It's called being on a reality show where people for the most part don't even act themselves because they're in an alien environment under unusual circumstances that doesn't allow for it. They more or less act for the cameras under duress, so if people think they're getting an accurate look at the majority of these people they'd probably be wrong as I'm sure they don't really act this way in normal life....well other than maybe Nikki who is an obvious compulsive whiner and Sezer who is a walking stiffy, but the rest are conditioning themselves to look a certain way as not to come off in a negative fashion.
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IRiSHMaFIA wrote:the rest are conditioning themselves to look a certain way as not to come off in a negative fashion.
None of them are smart enough (no one is really unless they're a sociopath and incapable of emotion on a normal level) to carry that off for 13 weeks on a 24/7 basis and that is the whole point of this twisted show - to make the contestants display their deepest traits under duress.

They all know this when they sign up yet still do it. What about them as a person is left when they leave? Little or nothing. Some claim that Big Brother "helped them" yet a few weeks in any properly controlled environment would be much more beneficial to them as they could still maintain their personal integrity in public without the public knowing every aspect of their strengths and weaknesses. The producers of the show know this and play it, like any bunch of cynical fuckwads would do.

The only previous contestants who are still in the public eye are those who are so thick that it's clear to media bosses that there's nothing they will say that will be outside the boundaries of people's expectations of them, and they know this because these people have sold their souls!


Ahh, that felt better - I've not ahd the chance to pull that particular argument out of the bag in a while...

cheers!
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faceless wrote: Ahh, that felt better - I've not ahd the chance to pull that particular argument out of the bag in a while...

cheers!
After some much needed caffine I'll clearly tell you why they didn't sell their soul, then you'll have no choice but to agree with my overwhelming logic.
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IRiSHMaFIA wrote:
faceless wrote: Ahh, that felt better - I've not ahd the chance to pull that particular argument out of the bag in a while...

cheers!
After some much needed caffine I'll clearly tell you why they didn't sell their soul, then you'll have no choice but to agree with my overwhelming logic.
looking forward to it!

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None of them are smart enough (no one is really unless they're a sociopath and incapable of emotion on a normal level) to carry that off for 13 weeks on a 24/7 basis and that is the whole point of this twisted show - to make the contestants display their deepest traits under duress.

They all know this when they sign up yet still do it. What about them as a person is left when they leave? Little or nothing. Some claim that Big Brother "helped them" yet a few weeks in any properly controlled environment would be much more beneficial to them as they could still maintain their personal integrity in public without the public knowing every aspect of their strengths and weaknesses. The producers of the show know this and play it, like any bunch of cynical fuckwads would do.

The only previous contestants who are still in the public eye are those who are so thick that it's clear to media bosses that there's nothing they will say that will be outside the boundaries of people's expectations of them, and they know this because these people have sold their souls!

Ahh, that felt better - I've not ahd the chance to pull that particular argument out of the bag in a while...

cheers!
Now.... back to this enlightenment of knowledge you obviously need about human nature!

The human brain is a very complex thing and people are capable of all sorts of things. 'Faking it' is probably one of the easiest things to pull off and most do it on a daily basis. It's human natures way of dealing with things and a defence mechanism of sorts people use to get through unusual situations they may face, and Big Brother is one of them.

Each and every contestant has seen this show in the past and have seen what happens once the people get out. They're slagged in the worst way by both the public and the press. Some want to stick out like a sore thumb whilst others want to go through the motions of just staying in without any strange labels or reputations put onto them by others that might not fit who they actually are, but this of course is completely unavoidable as it's just what people do. We tend to put down others because of our own perceptions of what 'the norm' is.

You are in err with this statement "no one is really unless they're a sociopath and incapable of emotion on a normal level". Reason I say you're in err is because it's just not so, as people are capable of all sorts of things and it doesn't take being a sociopath to pull it off, and on a completely normal level I might add. All they need is a strong, sturdy gameplan before going in the house on exactly how they want things to play out.

I'll use myself as a prime example here. In forums and in chat I'm a fairly talkative person. Most would perceive me as an outgoing individual that talks nonstop and they probably couldn't get a word in. This couldn't be further from the truth as I'm very quiet in reality and more a listener than a talker. I like to hear what others have to say, and once I've taken it all in I can respond in a logcial manner. This doesn't mean I can't be outgoing though, as it's as easy as turning on a lightswitch. If I'm in a situation where it's warranted then I can easly do it. I can 'fake' being the outgoing person that people tend to see me as in how I put myself out here. I could go in the Big Brother house and be 3 different people and pull them all off flawlessly if I had a mission on winning. I could be a complete arsewipe, a sweet caring person or a complete nutter.

People are like chameleons when forced into strange situations, so selling their soul hasn't a thing to do with it at all. They're obviously gaming YOU and you're falling for it.

I hope you took all this in and saw the light darlin, and no need to thank me for this unbridled knowledge I hold. Anytime you need to know anything....I'm here for you :kiss:
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i'd suggest that if they were actually able to remain emotionally stable for 3 months solid in a confined space that they wouldn't even be in there.

The point of the show is to expose these people's foibles and for them to be discussion points, denegrating them as individuals to the point of them being little more than rats in a cage. The sad thing is that the contestants' egos convince them that they are actually capable of dealing with such pressure when the reality is clearly a lot different (look at the people who have left already).

If a person could actually achieve the level of dissociation that would be required to survive the course without damage, then they must already have experienced emotional detachment in some other way and I can't imagine for a minute why someone who is capable of that would want to go on a TV show that is all about ego, unless they are a sociopath as I said earlier.

The contestants are "searchers" and while I wish them all the best I can't see that any of them will actually gain anything from giving up their souls and 3 months of their lives for "fame"!
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I'll have to take time out of our discussion faceless for some important facts about Grace-less

GRACE GOT PURR-VY IN A PVC CATSUIT

POSH totty Grace slipped into a kinky catsuit for wild sex with her ?bit of rough' lover.

Model Gavin Dixon says she couldn't get enough of him after they had gone all the way on an Ibiza beach on their first date.

He said: "Sex got better and better. We went out together and bought some sexy outfits for her to dress up in, she loved all that.

"We got black suspenders and a black PVC catsuit from Ann Summers. It had holes where her boobs popped out and a zip around the crotch.

"She would parade around the flat in it three or four times a week and then do a slow striptease."

Sex kitten Grace, who likes to put on airs as a Sloane Ranger, already had a boyfriend when she met Gavin.

But the 25-year-old from Chester-le-Street, Durham, said: "I was her bit of rough and that turned her on."

The duo met in London's Chinawhite club when he was out with pals Calum Best and Dean Gaffney last May. Weeks later he asked her for a date and whisked her off to San Antonio, Ibiza after she dumped her 20-year-old deep-sea diver boyfriend David McSweeney.

Within hours of arriving, they were locked in a passionate embrace.

Gavin said: "She kissed me and held my hand and led us on to the beach.

"I remember she had a little denim mini-skirt on and I was feeling her bottom, it is so pert and gorgeous, and I realised she didn't have any knickers on. Before I knew it, we were on the sand having sex. It was the best first date I've ever had and from then on, we'd have sex at least five times a day.

"She wasn't shy, but she isn't filthy in the bedroom, she just knows what she wants. She is a lady."

When they returned to Britain, she asked Gavin to move into her flat where he said she seduced him 30 times a week. But in December Gavin went back to old girlfriend, glamour model Jerri Byrne, while Grace went back to David, before getting back with Gavin in March and then going into the BB House.

Gavin predicted: "She and Mikey will be at it before the end of next week. I think he fancied Imogen at first but now he has turned to Grace.

"He may think it's second best but he won't be disappointed. She is red hot."

"But after that she will cling to him. She needs a man to look after her-and to satisfy her amazing sex drive!"

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PASSION: Grace and Gavin take a brief break from their five-a-day fruitiness


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GAVIN: "She wasn't shy, but she isn't filthy in the bedroom ... she is a lady."


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RELENTLESS: Gavin said Grace used to seduce him 30 times a week
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Dawn's on hunger strike

WHIFFY ex-housemate Dawn has gone on a hunger strike in a bid to claim unedited footage of her time inside.

The 38 year old, who is making a complaint to the police about the way she was treated by Big Brother bosses, says she will not eat until she gets the tapes.

"I was smeared by the production company as a smelly cheat. I want everyone to see what happened in the house and only getting the tapes will you all see the truth."

Furious Dawn, who cannot afford the legal fees, went on to say: "I am asking for a copy of the unedited footage in its entirety and I will remain on hunger strike unil I get it," warning: "I will continue until I pass out."

A spokeswoman for Big Brother said Dawn was booted out on Thursday 25 May for breaking the rules.
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Honestly, I think she is publicity crazed. This is attention seeking. Good luck to her... I can't see a hunger strike lasting long or people (the press) interested after a couple of days.

She didn't give the public a good impression (even if we did only see the bad bits).

And the bottom line - she chose to cheat.

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I think someone needs to tell Yawn her 15 minutes are up and to get over it. She caused her own demise in the show by being a cheat....and a smelly one at that since she didn't shower for a few days. It might be a blessing in disguise for her to go on a hunger strike and pass out. At least that would shut her up :thumbs:
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LOL @ Yawn .... :) :)
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