Artist eats Corgi in Royal Protest
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Skylace
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

luke wrote:


how would you have done it? i mean, this kinda crazy stuff gets in the media - its got us talking, although its kinda pointless subject really - most people are against it anyway, its only a minority of rich tally ho folk who are still for it, and certain farmers

but anyone who thought the royals were ever going to stop shooting animals is crazy Laughing


You can bring things to the publics attention without being shocking. Get the word out, be on the streets, make noise.

I'm a member of the Humane Society and the stuff that they send me gets my attention and a lot of other people's. You just have to get out there and be willing to do the foot work.

We've got the internet now, with loads of way to contact people and get our message out.

I would more then likely show pictures of the foxes and how they are killed and skinned, etc.

I know that fox hunting is still legal in PA. Which upsets me. And I plan on finding out if there are any groups that are against it (which I sure there are) and I will help them in anyway I can. It was like cock fighting here in NM. I find it disgusting and they finally made it illegal. And those are animals that most everyone has no problem eating and not one person had to do anything like this to get the point across.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skylace wrote:
You can bring things to the publics attention without being shocking. Get the word out, be on the streets, make noise.

I'm a member of the Humane Society and the stuff that they send me gets my attention and a lot of other people's. You just have to get out there and be willing to do the foot work.

We've got the internet now, with loads of way to contact people and get our message out.


although i kinda agree, all those things are a good way of getting word out, i think to reach the amount of people like this story will have done with its mainstream media coverage, you'd need to do a lot of organising - getting people together, getting leaflets, setting up stands, getting together content for a site etc, without any guarantee that people would pay attention or that it would have started any debate - outside of the group of people who are already aware.

i mean, would we have been talking about this if one of us had seen people handing out leaflets on the streets in town today about the royals shooting foxes?

Skylace wrote:
I would more then likely show pictures of the foxes and how they are killed and skinned, etc.


yeah, a decent media would have at least shown both sides of the argument and the reality of fox hunting. that why i said its pointless in a way, the way the article is framed, most of the debate is ignored - theres no mention of any recent laws, or those who continue to break the law except the royals - theres lots of fox hunting that still goes on here even though its illegal and the police don't seem to do anything about it

Skylace wrote:
I know that fox hunting is still legal in PA. Which upsets me. And I plan on finding out if there are any groups that are against it (which I sure there are) and I will help them in anyway I can. It was like cock fighting here in NM. I find it disgusting and they finally made it illegal. And those are animals that most everyone has no problem eating and not one person had to do anything like this to get the point across.


best of luck skylace Smile thumbs we've got loads of foxes round here, urban foxes, but the rich can't ride there horses around the streets chasing them Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

luke wrote:


although i kinda agree, all those things are a good way of getting word out, i think to reach the amount of people like this story will have done with its mainstream media coverage, you'd need to do a lot of organising - getting people together, getting leaflets, setting up stands, getting together content for a site etc, without any guarantee that people would pay attention or that it would have started any debate - outside of the group of people who are already aware.

i mean, would we have been talking about this if one of us had seen people handing out leaflets on the streets in town today about the royals shooting foxes?

yeah, a decent media would have at least shown both sides of the argument and the reality of fox hunting. that why i said its pointless in a way, the way the article is framed, most of the debate is ignored - theres no mention of any recent laws, or those who continue to break the law except the royals - theres lots of fox hunting that still goes on here even though its illegal and the police don't seem to do anything about it




That's the thing we're not really talking about how terrible fox hunting is or the royals, we're more talking about what *he* did. The talk is centered around his protest and not the actual issue.

People do talk about these types of things but we're not discussing how disgusting and inhumane the action of the royals (or any fox hunter) we're looking at his shock techinque. And sadly, shock wears off quickly when it comes to these sort of things. The places that are organized however are the ones who actually get things done.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the reality of fox hunting





tally hoe ...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty gruesome!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is. And that says more to me then what Mark McGowan did.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was my whole point. As soon as I read, "Artist eats corgi to protest royals", I skipped to the next headline. Had no idea that the protest was in relation to fox hunting. I see a story about a man eating a dog -- no thanks. Doesn't matter why he did it, although I would have been open to listen to his argurments if he had presented them differently. But his actions immediately offended his target audience: animal lovers. To me, that makes the "artist" not an animal activist, but a publicity whore.

That's why I prefer written media as opposed to broadcast news, because if I'm not interested in the headline, I just skip to the next one.
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