Shooting at WVA tech ...

[faceless]

So here's the picture of the guy

He's so bloody young and it just puzzles me how a person could get into such a dark place in their mind to want to inflict so much horror like he's done. Imagine the hell his parents are going through on so many levels......the loss of their own son and perhaps the guilt of what he's done as well.

What gets me is that he was an English student yet attacked Engineering students. I'm sure there must be a point to that somehow.

[Mandy]

I think he was a final (or 3rd) year student .. so I assume he was coming up to graduation .. or maybe he had failed the year.

FYI, "Va. Tech. Shooter Attended Public High School in Northern Virginia"

[IRiSHMaFIA]

So here's the picture of the guy

He's so bloody young and it just puzzles me how a person could get into such a dark place in their mind to want to inflict so much horror like he's done. Imagine the hell his parents are going through on so many levels......the loss of their own son and perhaps the guilt of what he's done as well.

What gets me is that he was an English student yet attacked Engineering students. I'm sure there must be a point to that somehow.

I dunno but what bothers me is he was noticed writing some very dark things by a teacher and you'd think it might be an alert that something wasn't right.

The problem is, others tend to ignore people like him that are loners or troubled. Perhaps it's how it all starts off....people not warming up to you and with being in a strange country and having no friends might have made him feel loneliness. The mind can really play tricks on a person when they feel ignored or shrugged off by others and along with the depression I think a lot of deep seeded anger sets in.

Maybe that's what happened to this guy. Nobody will ever really know I guess.

[Mandy]

Maybe that's what happened to this guy. Nobody will ever really know I guess.

It can't be easy to be alone and away from your family (even if his parents are in a different part of the USA).

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6563565.stm :

"US media reported that a "disturbing" note had been found in Cho Seung-hui's dormitory, and that he had been referred for counselling after producing "troubled" work in his creative writing class."

[girldorksrule]

It can't be easy to be alone and away from your family (even if his parents are in a different part of the USA).

Um...millions of college students are alone and away from their families everyday.

[Mandy]

Um...millions of college students are alone and away from their families everyday.

It can't be easy on them either. I am not saying being away from the family and their social support causes you to go mad .. but it is a factor adding stress to a lot of people. Throw in the complications of failed relationships, and some will commit suicide .. and of these, some will take down others.

I believe the first shooting of the day was initially assumed to be a "domestic" (i.e. failed relationship of some type). Now we know it is the same shooter (or at least the gun is the same), this could indicate that the "trigger" for the shooting was a relationship dispute.

[IRiSHMaFIA]

It can't be easy to be alone and away from your family (even if his parents are in a different part of the USA).

Um...millions of college students are alone and away from their families everyday.

Thing is though, that can be pressure for some, then add on the fact he was a loner and had no friends or anyone he could really count on for support or someone to just chum about with. It doesn't matter if your family is as close as the next state, loneliness can do horrible things to people where they feel maybe disliked by his fellow peers or not understood, and you're reminded of it daily seeing everyone together having a laugh and all the rest.

This is just all speculation on my part of course, but there's a reason why people go this way.

[Skylace]

It can't be easy to be alone and away from your family (even if his parents are in a different part of the USA).

Um...millions of college students are alone and away from their families everyday.

Thing is though, that can be pressure for some, then add on the fact he was a loner and had no friends or anyone he could really count on for support or someone to just chum about with. It doesn't matter if your family is as close as the next state, loneliness can do horrible things to people where they feel maybe disliked by his fellow peers or not understood, and you're reminded of it daily seeing everyone together having a laugh and all the rest.

This is just all speculation on my part of course, but there's a reason why people go this way.

He could have been lonely even if he was in his own country and with his family. We don't know how much of a support system he had at home or how many friends. More then likely he may have already had some issues already where he grew up. And also, he could have not wanted the support. There are plenty of people who push others away, including family.

The sad fact of the matter is he was probably showing some signs that he needed help that were probably ignored or brushed off.

EDIT: in a recent press release I read this:
The official also said Cho had a history of mental illness but gave no details.

Cho left a note in his dorm in which he railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on the Virginia Tech campus, The Associated Press reported.

The Chicago Tribune, citing unidentified sources, reported that Cho may have been taking medication to combat depression and that his recent behavior was troubling, including setting a fire in a dorm and stalking women.

Draft scripts for two plays allegedly written by Cho for a writing class contain "really twisted, macabre violence," according to a student who was in class with him at Virginia Tech.

Ian McFarland, now an AOL employee, describes the writing as "very graphic" and "extremely disturbing."

The writings were provided to CNN by AOL. The employee also wrote a blog to accompany the two scripts.

McFarland said in the blog that when the class read Cho's work, "it was like something out of a nightmare."

"The plays had really twisted, macabre violence that used weapons I wouldn't have even thought of. Before Cho got to class that day, we students were talking to each other with serious worry about whether he could be a school shooter."

McFarland said Cho was extremely quiet, and efforts by other students to draw him out were rebuffed.
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Also he came to the states at the age of 8 and his parents are here in the states.

[girldorksrule]

He could have been lonely even if he was in his own country and with his family.

This was pretty much my point. Just because you are away from home doesn't mean you are going to start killing people. As the article stated...something was WRONG. There are a lot of lonely people in the world and they don't go about killing others. Something inside their brain causes this behavior. Not being lonely.

[til661]

Loneliness could only be a contributing factor. most likely it was one of a number of different factors which combined with a pre-disposition to violence or in conjunction with mental illness that triggered this. Though the conflicting reports are a bit odd, all the ones here (UK) have been at pains to point out what a 'loner' 'outsider' he was, one said he didn't speak to people who said hello etc, but this is combined with the other news that he had an argument with his girlfriend or that it was a 'domestic'. I guess that's what you get with the awful drip-drip of leaked info on the media. Bloody horrendous all round.

[eefanincan]

They read bits of those plays he wrote on the news this evening...... foreshadowing for sure, now that we know what really happened. The interviewed his writing prof and she had actually gone to the police on more than one occasion about what she felt was a 'very disturbed individual' but was told there was really nothing they could do as he hadn't hurt anyone or broken any laws---- which is very true but unfortunate.

[Marcella-FL]

...hmmmmm .... I was an English Major ....

[Skylace]

They read bits of those plays he wrote on the news this evening...... foreshadowing for sure, now that we know what really happened. The interviewed his writing prof and she had actually gone to the police on more than one occasion about what she felt was a 'very disturbed individual' but was told there was really nothing they could do as he hadn't hurt anyone or broken any laws---- which is very true but unfortunate.

And that is what makes me so mad. We have been shown time again that there are warning signs to violent behavior and people go to the police and the police either choose to do nothing or can do nothing! Why aren't we working on changing these laws?

Klebold and Harris were suspected of pretty nasty stuff and they were going to get a search warrant but they decided against it and it was never filed!

Other people go to the police with letters threatening them, or phone calls and police will say there's little they can do! What is wrong with all this? This is where our society is really falling short.

[Aja]

I am only just Learning about this terrible thing .....So sad ......

What the hell is this world coming too ?

Makes me feel very scared for my girls growing up in this Sick world

[Skylace]

I just heard on the news this morning that one of the students at VT was also a student at Columbine during those shootings! Poor kid. I'd be scared to go to school of any sort now!