Professor who criticized Bush added to terrorist no-fly list

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:20 pm

Professor who criticized Bush added to terrorist no-fly list

https://rawstory.com/news/2007/Professor ... _0409.html
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When inquiring with a clerk why he was on the list, Murphy was asked if he had participated in any peace marches.

"We ban a lot of people from flying because of that," a clerk said.

Murphy then explained that he had not marched, but had "in September, 2006, given a lecture at Princeton, televised and put on the Web, highly critical of George Bush for his many violations of the Constitution."

The clerk responded, "That'll do it."
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Post by **faceless** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:23 pm

you get banned from flying if you take part in peace marches? I wonder what the logic is there... do they think a plane might get hijacked by middle-aged women singing hymns?

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:24 pm

It is to scare people not to leave their homes or be heard .. unless to support "our boys" (by putting them in harm's way)

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:26 pm

Madness.

Post by **faceless** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:38 pm

here's video of the speech that he gave which has apparently caused this...

https://www.princeton.edu/WebMedia/lectu ... PE350K.asx

major.tom · Post by **major.tom** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:52 pm

Nice find, Faceless. I'll be interested in seeing what he could possibly have said that could justify his being black-listed like this.

Sure, there's still free speech, as long as you limit it to those "free speech zones."

I have faith in Americans, though (if not in their government). I can't imagine the people will put up with this stuff for very long.

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:50 am

major.tom wrote:I have faith in Americans, though (if not in their government). I can't imagine the people will put up with this stuff for very long.

Amen! Obama '08, or we're fucked!

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:37 am

nekokate wrote:Amen! Obama '08, or we're fucked!

Hearing the millions Obama got in campaign funding (almost as much as Hilary), Obama has been "bought" by the MIC

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6526685.stm

Hillary Clinton - $26m
Barack Obama - $25m
Mitt Romney - $23m
Rudy Giuliani - $15m
John Edwards - $14m
John McCain - $12.5m

Needing to raise this amount of money to be in politics is not healthy for democracy (since it makes politicians beholden to their largest contributors).

Post by **Skylace** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:41 pm

nekokate wrote:
major.tom wrote:I have faith in Americans, though (if not in their government). I can't imagine the people will put up with this stuff for very long.
Amen! Obama '08, or we're fucked!

So far I prefer Richardson over all the other Democrats.

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:33 pm

OK, what's the MIC?

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:35 pm

nekokate wrote:OK, what's the MIC?

Military Industrial Complex [MIC]. See thread/poll "Military Industrial Complex [MIC] : Too Much Influence ?"

major.tom · Post by **major.tom** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:52 am

Skylace wrote:So far I prefer Richardson over all the other Democrats.

Interesting. I'm partial to Kucinich.

harry perkins · Post by **harry perkins** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:29 am

I heard Kucinich in London last month, seemed awfully moderate and flaky to me despite his radical reputation.
Maybe what America needs is a Gorbachev, who tries to reform the empire only to see it collapse entirely. Though I wouldn't wish the present state of the former Soviet Union on anyone.