After a very interesting thread on Israel, I think the poll in this thread should be very interesting :
The Military Industrial Complex [MIC] : Does it Have Too Much Influence on US and British Foreign Policy?
Some forum browsers who vote yes, may even think this influence can be called "control". In any case, would love to hear your views.
Military Industrial Complex [MIC] : Too Much Influence ?
yeah, without a doubt gg, definitely on american, and as we do everything master bush tells poddle blair to do, by extension it influences ours, but maybe to a lesser extent - i mean there are rare times, i can think of one under thatcher where she turned reagan down for something, where its not regarded in the 'national interest' and we follow our own path
although i think its wrong to talk about the 'military industrial complex' as like one single unit, theres different influences coming from different places to serve different needs, i think its a bit more complex. i mean like arms manufactures just need any war, they don't care which, just so long as theres demand so they can keep making weapons. the army will have what it thinks needs doing, the politicians theres, and others involved yet more, and of course you have people with mixed interests / agendas benefiting, working or influencing various parts of the system. its like a tangled web of greed really
wasn't it eisenhower who when he left office warned of the growth of the military industrial complex? its kinda so ingrained into the structure of america now, it's a massive part of the economy, loads of jobs rely on it. they're clever the way the arms manufactures work, like they will produce say a bomb, but it'll be made bit by bit in various states so that the politicians in those states are always pressured to keep contracts coming to the state to keep the jobs, and won't go against the arms manufactures in any way for fear of them moving to another state, or loosing funding etc
theres an interesting documentary if anyones interested called 'why we fight: the military industrial complex'
although i think its wrong to talk about the 'military industrial complex' as like one single unit, theres different influences coming from different places to serve different needs, i think its a bit more complex. i mean like arms manufactures just need any war, they don't care which, just so long as theres demand so they can keep making weapons. the army will have what it thinks needs doing, the politicians theres, and others involved yet more, and of course you have people with mixed interests / agendas benefiting, working or influencing various parts of the system. its like a tangled web of greed really
wasn't it eisenhower who when he left office warned of the growth of the military industrial complex? its kinda so ingrained into the structure of america now, it's a massive part of the economy, loads of jobs rely on it. they're clever the way the arms manufactures work, like they will produce say a bomb, but it'll be made bit by bit in various states so that the politicians in those states are always pressured to keep contracts coming to the state to keep the jobs, and won't go against the arms manufactures in any way for fear of them moving to another state, or loosing funding etc
theres an interesting documentary if anyones interested called 'why we fight: the military industrial complex'
I totally agree, with major "players" acting as directors/executives in the MIC, as well as being senior executives or share holders in the media outlets which supports the MIC, as well as in finance {which can profit from financing the wars), and sometimes also sometimes being politicians as well.luke wrote: its like a tangled web of greed really
As I said in the "Israel" thread, this is RAW, unfettered, capitalism of the WORST kind, prepared to commit Slavery, Genocide, Torture, War Crimes, invasions, occupation, etc. for "profit" for them (to the detriment of citizens in all countries who are not part of this "MIC").
p.s. You were right about the quote from Eisenhower :
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/autho ... hower.html
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Well the reason it is important for the MIC to involve Israel is because of the multi Billion dollar investments by Christrian Churches.
see this https://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/v ... php?t=1830
I have explained all of this already on anti-neocons.com
If any of you want to do a padcast for this website ill bve happy to do it
The military is the largest corporation of earth. Check out WElcome to the USSA the book. It is the sane thing that happened to Russia. Russia's MIC took all their money and bankrupted the country. It also happened to Spain, Rome, Athens as far back as you want to go that is what happens.
see this https://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/v ... php?t=1830
I have explained all of this already on anti-neocons.com
If any of you want to do a padcast for this website ill bve happy to do it
The military is the largest corporation of earth. Check out WElcome to the USSA the book. It is the sane thing that happened to Russia. Russia's MIC took all their money and bankrupted the country. It also happened to Spain, Rome, Athens as far back as you want to go that is what happens.
I suppose Chavez would have voted "Yes"
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Chavez Article
The president believes the US' aggressive attitude comes from big companies rather than his counterpart George W Bush.
"President Bush is not the boss over there, he is just a small figure," he said. "The big corporations make the decisions, those unscrupulous ones that start wars to sell and win billions of dollars."
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Chavez Article
The president believes the US' aggressive attitude comes from big companies rather than his counterpart George W Bush.
"President Bush is not the boss over there, he is just a small figure," he said. "The big corporations make the decisions, those unscrupulous ones that start wars to sell and win billions of dollars."
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