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IRiSHMaFIA
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| Skylace wrote: | | faceless wrote: | | Skylace wrote: | | faceless wrote: | | Skylace wrote: |
He should be stripped of his license, jailed and given some serious therapy himself. He's one sick mother fucker and gives psychologists a bad name.
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If the case is upheld then maybe. |
Hopefully it will be. It's scary to me actually. Thinking what he's done for all those years to people. It's like when you hear those stories about medical doctors doing terrible things to their patients and still practicing after that. |
but is his history of that? Of course I'm being Devil's Advocate here, but until it all becomes clear it's not right to make a judgment. |
If he didn't do it then fine. He shouldn't be charged. But I think doing this just once is enough to warrant him losing his license. If I was inappropriate with just one child in my office you can be sure my license would be gone as well as my job. |
I think being inappropriate to one child is enough to have a license revoked being honest. It's not just a simple mistake and can cause life long trauma. |
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Skylace
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| IRiSHMaFIA wrote: | | Skylace wrote: | | faceless wrote: | | Skylace wrote: | | faceless wrote: | | Skylace wrote: |
He should be stripped of his license, jailed and given some serious therapy himself. He's one sick mother fucker and gives psychologists a bad name.
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If the case is upheld then maybe. |
Hopefully it will be. It's scary to me actually. Thinking what he's done for all those years to people. It's like when you hear those stories about medical doctors doing terrible things to their patients and still practicing after that. |
but is his history of that? Of course I'm being Devil's Advocate here, but until it all becomes clear it's not right to make a judgment. |
If he didn't do it then fine. He shouldn't be charged. But I think doing this just once is enough to warrant him losing his license. If I was inappropriate with just one child in my office you can be sure my license would be gone as well as my job. |
I think being inappropriate to one child is enough to have a license revoked being honest. It's not just a simple mistake and can cause life long trauma. |
Exactly. And it's as it should be. Just like with this doctor. He could cause life long trauma from his therapy he was using. |
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faceless
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| does it say this patient was a child? |
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Skylace
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| faceless wrote: | | does it say this patient was a child? |
It shouldn't matter if it was a child or not. He can still have caused psychological damage to her.
You're dealing with a person who has an eating disorder. Which means that she has a problem with the way she percieves herself. She went to him to help gain control of her life.
You can do damage to adults just as easily to children in therapy. |
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eefanincan
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:02 am Post subject: |
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| IRiSHMaFIA wrote: | | Skylace wrote: | | IRiSHMaFIA wrote: |
Spot on about his license should be stripped and the prick thrown in jail, but I'd prefer to see him thrown in a pigpen, but then again that'd be mean to pigs then wouldn't it.
There is no excuse whatsoever for anyone, let alone a doctor to treat a person in this manner, and he obviously took advantage of some poor soul that put their trust in him. |
Exactly. Patients put their whole trust in you and for him to abuse it in this way is shameful. Like I said before, we're taught to "do no harm". In all of my ethics courses I was taught if you can't handle a case for whatever reason you have three choices: Consult with other professionals for help; Refer out to another therapist; or if you cannot refer out then work on ending the relationship (you usually end when you can't handle it because of your own emotional issues). |
Damn straight sista! |
I'll second that. This a-hole wouldn't know ethics if it hit him upside the head. I certainly understand issues of control and whatnot, but it's not the way to treat bullemia. There are other ways of helping someone to achieve control without demeaning them to the level of an animal. |
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IRiSHMaFIA
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| Skylace wrote: | | IRiSHMaFIA wrote: | | Skylace wrote: | | faceless wrote: | | Skylace wrote: | | faceless wrote: | | Skylace wrote: |
He should be stripped of his license, jailed and given some serious therapy himself. He's one sick mother fucker and gives psychologists a bad name.
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If the case is upheld then maybe. |
Hopefully it will be. It's scary to me actually. Thinking what he's done for all those years to people. It's like when you hear those stories about medical doctors doing terrible things to their patients and still practicing after that. |
but is his history of that? Of course I'm being Devil's Advocate here, but until it all becomes clear it's not right to make a judgment. |
If he didn't do it then fine. He shouldn't be charged. But I think doing this just once is enough to warrant him losing his license. If I was inappropriate with just one child in my office you can be sure my license would be gone as well as my job. |
I think being inappropriate to one child is enough to have a license revoked being honest. It's not just a simple mistake and can cause life long trauma. |
Exactly. And it's as it should be. Just like with this doctor. He could cause life long trauma from his therapy he was using. |
Well on that topic....
I was speaking to a girlfriend last week that worked with me in a practice. There was this one doctor that was a money hungry prick and did whatever he could to give a patient the most expensive treatment and ongoing so he could continue to get return on them.
He wanted to give a child a procedure called Radial Keratotomy that basically reforms the eye to improve vision. It's doesn't always work and can be a painful thing for them to go through. You're also not meant to give that treatment till the age of atleast 18, but he went ahead with the parents permission to do so.
It ended up costing them £3000 and the child was in agony and couldn't focus in school because of discomfort, but he kept insisting the child should continue and it sickened us because we knew it was totally wrong.
Finally the child out and out refused to wear the lenses and they ended up getting them glasses, but this is just one of the ways they can take advantage and this is a very minor example.
oh....and the child was just turning 14 when the procedure was finally stopped. The doctor got a nice bit of money and could have seriously harmed this child's vision for life. He didn't give a rats arse! |
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Skylace
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| IRiSHMaFIA wrote: | | Skylace wrote: | | IRiSHMaFIA wrote: | | Skylace wrote: | | faceless wrote: | | Skylace wrote: | | faceless wrote: | | Skylace wrote: |
He should be stripped of his license, jailed and given some serious therapy himself. He's one sick mother fucker and gives psychologists a bad name.
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If the case is upheld then maybe. |
Hopefully it will be. It's scary to me actually. Thinking what he's done for all those years to people. It's like when you hear those stories about medical doctors doing terrible things to their patients and still practicing after that. |
but is his history of that? Of course I'm being Devil's Advocate here, but until it all becomes clear it's not right to make a judgment. |
If he didn't do it then fine. He shouldn't be charged. But I think doing this just once is enough to warrant him losing his license. If I was inappropriate with just one child in my office you can be sure my license would be gone as well as my job. |
I think being inappropriate to one child is enough to have a license revoked being honest. It's not just a simple mistake and can cause life long trauma. |
Exactly. And it's as it should be. Just like with this doctor. He could cause life long trauma from his therapy he was using. |
Well on that topic....
I was speaking to a girlfriend last week that worked with me in a practice. There was this one doctor that was a money hungry prick and did whatever he could to give a patient the most expensive treatment and ongoing so he could continue to get return on them.
He wanted to give a child a procedure called Radial Keratotomy that basically reforms the eye to improve vision. It's doesn't always work and can be a painful thing for them to go through. You're also not meant to give that treatment till the age of atleast 18, but he went ahead with the parents permission to do so.
It ended up costing them £3000 and the child was in agony and couldn't focus in school because of discomfort, but he kept insisting the child should continue and it sickened us because we knew it was totally wrong.
Finally the child out and out refused to wear the lenses and they ended up getting them glasses, but this is just one of the ways they can take advantage and this is a very minor example.
oh....and the child was just turning 14 when the procedure was finally stopped. The doctor got a nice bit of money and could have seriously harmed this child's vision for life. He didn't give a rats arse! |
 That just makes the blood boil! Doing that to someone just to make money! What slime! |
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IRiSHMaFIA
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:22 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Skylace"][quote="IRiSHMaFIA"] | Skylace wrote: | | IRiSHMaFIA wrote: | | Skylace wrote: | | faceless wrote: | | Skylace wrote: | | faceless wrote: | | Skylace wrote: |
He should be stripped of his license, jailed and given some serious therapy himself. He's one sick mother fucker and gives psychologists a bad name.
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If the case is upheld then maybe. |
Hopefully it will be. It's scary to me actually. Thinking what he's done for all those years to people. It's like when you hear those stories about medical doctors doing terrible things to their patients and still practicing after that. |
but is his history of that? Of course I'm being Devil's Advocate here, but until it all becomes clear it's not right to make a judgment. |
If he didn't do it then fine. He shouldn't be charged. But I think doing this just once is enough to warrant him losing his license. If I was inappropriate with just one child in my office you can be sure my license would be gone as well as my job. |
I think being inappropriate to one child is enough to have a license revoked being honest. It's not just a simple mistake and can cause life long trauma. |
Exactly. And it's as it should be. Just like with this doctor. He could cause life long trauma from his therapy he was using. |
I've also seen it the other way round though. One doctor I worked for literally lost sleep worrying about patients when parents wouldn't do the right thing, like one girl I did a field test on. The doctor told the father she needed to go to emergency immediately and had already called the neurologist on call to set up a cat scan because there were worrisome abnormalities in the field test that were so obvious. The girl was having serious headaches and very blurred vision and some other symptoms.
The father out and out refused and said the doctor didn't know what he was talking about. This girl could have died that night and the doctor told him the severity of what could happen but he couldn't be arsed to take her.
The doctor I worked for came in the next day with no sleep at all and cancelled his appointments to call authorities to see what could be done to force the father into taking his daughter. That's what I call a man that took his oath seriously. |
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eefanincan
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The doctor I worked for came in the next day with no sleep at all and cancelled his appointments to call authorities to see what could be done to force the father into taking his daughter. That's what I call a man that took his oath seriously. |
Glad to hear it. I always hate having to call in Children's Aid but it's a necessary part of my job. It's actually something I think about long and hard before I do it because it can have such negative implications, but, in the long run, you have to do what's the best for the patient. Plus, Children's Aid doesn't keep the information about the reporting person confidential, so anyone could look me up and find out where I live, etc. I guess people have the right to know who's accused them, but I sometimes wonder whether some nutter will come looking for me one day. |
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IRiSHMaFIA
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:35 am Post subject: |
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| eefanincan wrote: | | IRiSHMaFIA wrote: |
The doctor I worked for came in the next day with no sleep at all and cancelled his appointments to call authorities to see what could be done to force the father into taking his daughter. That's what I call a man that took his oath seriously. |
Glad to hear it. I always hate having to call in Children's Aid but it's a necessary part of my job. It's actually something I think about long and hard before I do it because it can have such negative implications, but, in the long run, you have to do what's the best for the patient. Plus, Children's Aid doesn't keep the information about the reporting person confidential, so anyone could look me up and find out where I live, etc. I guess people have the right to know who's accused them, but I sometimes wonder whether some nutter will come looking for me one day. |
That's pretty incredible that the information isn't kept confidential. It could put you in line for danger and that sounds really ridiculous to me.
I understand why they do it that way, but I'm sure that also makes medical professionals such as yourself not as keen to report things, which in the long run is neglecting a patients needs.
It has to be quite the dilemma for some, but in the long run doing the right thing would be my first action to take no matter what came afterwards. |
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Skylace
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I've also seen it the other way round though. One doctor I worked for literally lost sleep worrying about patients when parents wouldn't do the right thing, like one girl I did a field test on. The doctor told the father she needed to go to emergency immediately and had already called the neurologist on call to set up a cat scan because there were worrisome abnormalities in the field test that were so obvious. The girl was having serious headaches and very blurred vision and some other symptoms.
The father out and out refused and said the doctor didn't know what he was talking about. This girl could have died that night and the doctor told him the severity of what could happen but he couldn't be arsed to take her.
The doctor I worked for came in the next day with no sleep at all and cancelled his appointments to call authorities to see what could be done to force the father into taking his daughter. That's what I call a man that took his oath seriously. |
The shame is those stories aren't the ones that make it to the news. The ones with the dedicated doctors that is.
We hear more about the terrible one then the good ones. Just like we always hear about the priests or teachers who abuse children. Those will make the front page of any paper.
Good on him for being so dedicated. |
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