Celebrity Big Brother discussion

[eefanincan]

Here is Carole's article that was in the Sunday Mirror, today:

14 January 2007
BB: THE TRUTH
CLEO'S SEXY AS HELL & JADE'LL HAVE A FIGHT WITH SHILPA
Carole Malone
I HAVE just spent the first night in 10 days out of the Big Brother house - and you can't begin to imagine how wonderful it is just to look out of my window and see trees and people and cars. You can't begin to know how wonderful it is to sleep in my own bed without cameras to film me breathing, snoring and slavering. The simple but glorious pleasure of silence and actually spending a few minutes alone is something I've never really appreciated until now. Because until you've lived in that bubble where every move, every emotion is magnified 10 times over, you can't know how endless the days are, how even taking a shower requires the dexterity of a trapeze artist. Even getting dressed is a feat because you have to take your clothes in the loo or the shower -the only places with no cameras.

In the BB house the inhabitants live in fear of every mirror (except Danielle) because lurking behind them is a camera to film your every move, every tear of frustration and those thoughts that scream, "What the hell am I doing here?" We all went into that house in a state of nervous exhaustion and terror. We were collected from our homes at 7am and whisked to a hotel where our suitcases were ransacked by BB staff. And I mean ransacked. Every thing I had - every lipstick, every coin, every pair of knickers, every piece of jewellery, every pen, every item of clothing, was listed. My handbag, phone and watch were taken from me. I was told I could only take so much into the house. I had a tantrum when they told me I couldn't take my hairdryer. In the end they brought me one which they said I could ask for when I needed it. Every logo on every piece of clothing was hidden with masking tape. All my toiletries and cosmetics were also taped so that the cameras couldn't identify the brands. I had a chaperone called Stewart for the day without whom I would have been terrified. None of us were allowed to see any of the other housemates - and if we had to leave our rooms for any reason it was with a towel over our heads and wearing a mask.

That night we were sneaked out of our hotels under and taken to a dressing room at Elstree Studios where we were kept under lock and key. A psychologist came to see each of us to ensure we weren't nuts. He told me he knew my mum had died recently and asked if I thought I'd cope. Because I'd packed all my makeup I realised I had none to make myself up for the show. Terror had made my face look like a boiled egg, so I was whisked into Davina's dressing room where her make-up artist very kindly did a job on me. As the time came to enter the house my guts were churning. One by one we were taken from the dressing room to a blacked-out car which would whisk us to the red carpet leading to the house. WHEN I got out of the car I was shaking so much I nearly walked past Davina. Everything after that was a blur of flashlights and people shouting. I kept thinking, "I want to go home".

None of us had any idea what awaited us the other side of those padded doors - and I now know that if we had, at least half the housemates would never have gone in. You can't lock up a genius like film director Ken Russell with Jackiey Goody and imagine anything good is going to come of it. Then there's the house routine itself. Every morning, before you've even opened your eyes, the blinding hot lights are thrown on at full power. You have no idea what the time it is or even what day it is because there are no clocks, no watches. We tried to keep track of the days by lining up a row of beans in the garden, but Donny (my hero) messed that up on day two when he kicked them half-way to Bermondsey. But the scariest thing of all was not knowing what was going on in the outside world - how we were being perceived. And we weren't allowed to read or write anything.

There were no pens, no paper, no phones. But it's the crashing boredom of the whole experience that sends you loopy. Yes, talking to everyone and finding out about their lives was fascinating. But talking solidly for up to 18 hours a day is exhausting. Most of us thought BB would give us tasks to pass the time, but there wasn't much of that. They wanted us to be bored because they thought it would create friction - and they were right. We all knew that was their game plan and we were determined not to let the pressure get to us - but, as you've seen, we didn't always succeed. Having said that, the intensity of the time spent in the house either makes for lifelong friends or lifelong enemies - and I'd like to think that for me, some will be in my life for a long time.

Yes, of course, I had my favourites - Cleo Rocos for one. Cleo is one of the most deliciously feminine women I've ever met. She wakes wearing diamante, she's as sexy as hell, she lights up a room in the way no Big Brother spotlight ever could. She is sensitive, kind caring and tells the kind of filthy jokes that would make a trucker blush. You daren't say you like any- thing of hers because she'll give it to you. It's impossible to believe there's no man in her life, but 16 years after Kenny Everett's death no one has even come close to the man she describes as her soul-mate. And even though she's wowing the nation (even my husband Nino's fallen in love with her) she has no idea how gorgeous she is. Every morning she'd sneak into the bathroom wearing sunglasses before the rest of us were awake and apply her make-up with the glasses still on.

And then there's Shilpa Shetty, the drop-dead gorgeous Bollywood star who's worth £15million and lives in an apartment in Bombay with servants and chauffeurs - whom I never for one moment imagined I'd have anything in common with. But in the past 10 days we've shared stories of past romances. We've shared moisturisers and a face-pack. We've even dyed our moustaches with (her) cream bleach. She's taught me how to cook at least three Indian dishes. She's given me a pair of fantastic shoes. We've organised a shopping trip to Bombay where I'm hoping I can live the Bollywood life for at least a couple of days. Yes, Shilpa can be a bit bossy and, yes, you'd better move out of the kitchen when she's cooking because she wants to be in charge. But the woman has heart and grace and elegance - all of which she's going to need because Jade and Danielle are gunning for her.

Jade's mum Jackiey hated Shilpa and constantly referred to her as "The Indian" which I found horribly insulting. Jackiey made life purposely difficult for Shilpa - shouting at her for no reason, criticising her cooking, attacking her for being bossy. Most of the time Shilpa kept her cool because, as she says, in India you don't shout at your elders - you try to show them respect, a word Jackiey clearly doesn't understand or deserve. THERE was a point where Jermaine and I were frightened Jackiey might physically attack Shilpa. But the funny thing is there were days I actually liked Jackiey. I saw her vulnerability. I knew she'd had a difficult life and was jealous of Shilpa (who wouldn't be?) but her way of handling that was cruel and unnecessary. And I fear for Shilpa now because its obvious Jade is hell- bent on giving her a hard time.

But having said that, I saw a completely different side to Jade in the house. As Davina repeatedly reminded me, I've called Jade some horrific things in the past - but she can be very sweet and supportive. She lives by her own moral code and never talks about money (even though it's rumoured she's worth £8million) or her sex life (although those who saw Friday's show will know Jack did something in bed that caused Jade huge embarrassment). She still might not know who the US president is, or where the Norfolk Broads are, but this girl - who had the very worst start in life - has made a huge success of it now. The girl done well - although I still wouldn't like to get into a fight with her.

And then there's Jo and Danielle. Jo, lead singer in the band S Club Seven, wouldn't at first take her coat off for two hours because she was so scared. But she is one of the only people in the house with no agenda. What you see is what you get. She's decent and earthy and funny and all she wants to do is run an animal sanctuary. So if anyone out there has a spare few quid please help her set it up...

And then there's the former Miss Great Britain, Danielle Lloyd. She is a child/woman who is vulnerable and sweet and needs lots of attention. I was her "mummy" in lieu of the real thing. She spent half her time putting on make-up (the one person who didn't need it) and the other deciding what shoes to wear (she brought in 14 pairs). She's madly in love with footballer Teddy Sherringham and even brought in a blue teddy drenched in his aftershave. She dreams of getting a four-carat ring from him - and plans for them to spend a week in bed when she eventually gets out!

But I was suspicious of Ian from Steps. He made friends with the people he thought would be in the house the longest. Suffice to say Shilpa and Cleo got lots of attention from him. I didn't. Now for Dirk "Eggs" Benedict. He's had 14 years in Montana bringing up his two sons and now wants a wife. She doesn't have to be young (phew) and she can't be too smart because Dirk believes his woman should be at home looking after the house and kids (yes, we had arguments about that, but his mind won't be changed). But I've never met a man who unashamedly adores his kids. He gave up his career to take care of them when his wife walked out. And while he might be 62 he looks 52. He's in great shape (trust me, I've seen the body). He's fun, he tells me he's loyal like a dog and would never cheat on a woman - and I believe him. This is a man who got prostate cancer at 30 and beat it with a macrobiotic diet. So the downside is he only eats rice and vegetables but hey, he still looks like a movie star. Yes, he's got a crush on Shilpa but nothing's going to happen. She likes him, but says he's nearly as old as her dad and, anyway, wants to marry someone from her own country. But he's a good, decent, solid man who still has all his own hair. So start the queue girls for when he gets out.

And then there's lovely Jermaine who doesn't say much, but when he does his words cut through all the crap. He's the most shocked and troubled by what's happening. He's a Muslim and deeply devout. He's been a rock for Shilpa as she's been dealing with aggression from the Goody family, and he's the man we all went to when we had a problem. He has kept his distance (as well as his dignity) but now feels that's being compromised. On Thursday he told me if things don't improve he'll walk next Wednesday.

And finally, there's Leo. There were days when, in the same 60 seconds, I wanted to kiss him and punch his lights out. He's not interested in listening to anyone else. He talks about himself in the third person like he's some superstar God of music. I nearly fell off my chair laughing when he told me he was in a road accident (in Australia I think) and they were preparing to tell us in Britain that "our boy" was about to die. The story was made funnier by Danielle whispering, "Who the f*** is he then?" It's true he got on everyone's nerves. But he could be incredibly funny and they'll all miss his - lunacy now he's gone. I'm convinced he smashed his way out on Friday because he was scared he'd be voted out. And he was right. He was the front-runner for eviction by a mile - and Davina told me I'd still be there if he hadn't gone. So, for that at least, I have to thank him.

I'm not sorry I went into the house - even though my real age is now in the public domain thanks to the treachery of our sister paper The Mirror. I met some fantastic people and been part of a human experiment that, at best, is hilarious and, at worst, terrifying. Big Brother can seriously mess with people's heads. Jermaine said it was like being in hell with the devil - and there were times it felt exactly like that. I just hope the rest of my housemates survive the next 18 days and I can't wait to see them when they get out. But for now - I'm just happy to have my life back.

[Kezza]

Thanks for the post, eefan -- a great read!!!

I cannot say how much I enjoyed the Day 12 "Tribute Bands" task. That was the most entertaining moment I've seen on ANY episode of Big Brother, "Celebrity" or otherwise.

Jermaine has impressed me enormously. Despite all of the negative press his family and/or his brother, Michael, has received, Jermaine comes across as a grounded, genuine individual. I wish that the whole of the US could view him -- he is a credit to his family, as well as himself. I also appreciated his Diary Room quote this evening when, in referring to the treatment Shilpa is receiving from certain housemates, he said:

"Those who are secure become a threat to those who have insecurities."

And, as previous posts predicted, Jermaine noted that he & Shilpa are the "minorities" in the house. Very astute observations, which were verified this evening.

I hold Jermaine in the highest esteem, and I hope that he remains in the house for the duration.

[eefanincan]

I cannot say how much I enjoyed the Day 12 "Tribute Bands" task. That was the most entertaining moment I've seen on ANY episode of Big Brother, "Celebrity" or otherwise.

OMG, I just about wet my pants watching that, it was so funny. Kind of makes you think that the Jackson family is sitting somewhere in America having a stroke at having their song butchered. But it was a good laugh ---- and I'm old enough to admit to having seen the Jackson do this song live. (and I think it might have gone better if they'd let Shilpa keep her bottle of cough syrup!!!) And I got to thinking, if Leo had stayed, he likely wouldn't have had to wear a wig if he were on the Jackson 5 team (although clean underpants are mandatory).

And I agree with your sentiments about Jermaine as well, Kezza. He seems very well grounded and hopefully he goes far.


Overall, I thought the mood in the house was much better this episode and think the "fun" challenge did a lot to perk up their spirits. I've never watched BB at all until now, but I'm guessing the typical challenge pattern would be to now give them something that would be a little more emotionally difficult?

[6ULDV8]

As Irish reported in the news section (C B B News)...

There are claims of Racism against Shilpa Shetty by the likes of Jade, Jo & Danielle....
It mentions Jackiey (jades mum) too...

But what about the wanker (in more ways than one) Jack?

He started the ball rolling with Jade on the night that Jackiey was evicted.
For almost 1/2 an hour he was in bed with Jade telling her how much he hated Shilpa, calling her all manner of names.
It would appear that he was laying the full blame of Jackiey's eviction directly on Shilpa's head.

With all this going down in the house, it does look to be racism...
But what if...
What if it realy is just a conflict between personalities & not races...

It was Jermaine Jackson who bought up the 'race card'.
He has mentioned it about 5 times that I can recall.


For Jade to be found racist would be a hard battle to conclude, as she herself is a very light skinned child of a mixed race couple.

I feel in my bones that it's a racist thng from Jack & from Jo...
I feel personaly that Jade is just along for the ride as she listens to Jack (god knows why)...
I also feel that the daft 'child-woman' (not Jade but Danielle) is not only racist, but also somewhat retarded in ohhh so many ways.

[IRiSHMaFIA]

As Irish reported in the news section (C B B News)...

There are claims of Racism against Shilpa Shetty by the likes of Jade, Jo & Danielle....
It mentions Jackiey (jades mum) too...

But what about the wanker (in more ways than one) Jack?

He started the ball rolling with Jade on the night that Jackiey was evicted.
For almost 1/2 an hour he was in bed with Jade telling her how much he hated Shilpa, calling her all manner of names.
It would appear that he was laying the full blame of Jackiey's eviction directly on Shilpa's head.

With all this going down in the house, it does look to be racism...
But what if...
What if it realy is just a conflict between personalities & not races...

It was Jermaine Jackson who bought up the 'race card'.
He has mentioned it about 5 times that I can recall.


For Jade to be found racist would be a hard battle to conclude, as she herself is a very light skinned child of a mixed race couple.

I feel in my bones that it's a racist thng from Jack & from Jo...
I feel personaly that Jade is just along for the ride as she listens to Jack (god knows why)...
I also feel that the daft 'child-woman' (not Jade but Danielle) is not only racist, but also somewhat retarded in ohhh so many ways.

Well as I mentioned in the other thread, I'd forgotten about Jack because he's not even a living entity in my mind, but quite correct that he's just as pathetic as the other 3.

Now...as to what I was saying in the other thread, Jade didn't need Jack there to be the c*nt she is. That comes naturally for her as that's just who and what she is. I don't think Jack slipped in bed with Danielle and Jo to put the racist but in their ear. That came naturally to them to do so, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with clashing personalities. A bigot is a bigot and it doesn't matter how rotten or nice a person is, why would their race come into it?

They mock her about her accent, the way she cooks, call her a DOG and of course we all know that filthy prick Jack called her a packi that was blocked out by C4 but it was obvious what he said. Sure Jade told him he shouldn't say that but I'm sure the only reason for that is because she knows that everyone can see them as she's done Big Brother before. It's not because she had any tinge of human decency. If she had any of that then she'd not be constantly picking on her every chance she gets. Shipla breathing is enough to send these girls off!

Jade being mixed race has bugger all to do with it. Think about countries like Rwanda where both the Tutsis and Hutus are both black but one is racist against the other because they're lighter and have softer features. That's only one example of many I could put here but I'm sure you get what I'm saying.

As far as I'm concerned the 4 of them are scum, and I hope when Danielle gets out that Ted tells her to feck off and doesn't speak to her again because he's going to look like a right fool having anything to do with that pathetic slapper, and as for the rest, I hope people see them for what they truly are and they're driven half out of their minds in the tabloids for the shite they've caused that woman.

[faceless]

I hope people see them for what they truly are and they're driven half out of their minds in the tabloids for the shite they've caused that woman.

haha, cutting!

[IRiSHMaFIA]

It was Jermaine Jackson who bought up the 'race card'.
He has mentioned it about 5 times that I can recall.

I forgot to address this and it would have driven me mad if I didn't

I don't get what your point is about mentioning Jermaine bringing up the 'race card'? I'm glad to see someone out of all of them is smart enough to see it for what it is, and if he raises the topic in the DR another 100 times while the filthy 4 are in the house then good on him.

For people too thick or ignorant to realise what these people are all about...it's good for someone like him to bring awareness to it.

[6ULDV8]

It was Jermaine Jackson who bought up the 'race card'.
He has mentioned it about 5 times that I can recall.

I forgot to address this and it would have driven me mad if I didn't

I don't get what your point is about mentioning Jermaine bringing up the 'race card'? I'm glad to see someone out of all of them is smart enough to see it for what it is, and if he raises the topic in the DR another 100 times while the filthy 4 are in the house then good on him.

For people too thick or ignorant to realise what these people are all about...it's good for someone like him to bring awareness to it.

I was just pointing to the fact that he saw it for waht it is far ahead of many people....

He was the first person to mention anything about it being a racial thing & I applauded him for seeing it for what it is...

Jade is done for... as are the others...

She's been the media's luvvy for too long, now she will be roasted & forgotten.
She's lied to the public & made money off them, she's shown herself as a bully whilst being a Patron & a spokesperson for an anti-bully trust...
This crap now is the final nail in the coffin & thank fuck, it's about time.

[faceless]

She's lied to the public & made money off them, she's shown herself as a bully whilst being a Patron & a spokesperson for an anti-bully trust...

wasn't it Jodie Marsh who was involved with the bullying group?

[IRiSHMaFIA]

She's lied to the public & made money off them, she's shown herself as a bully whilst being a Patron & a spokesperson for an anti-bully trust...

wasn't it Jodie Marsh who was involved with the bullying group?

Jade Goody supported the 'Cool to be kind' campaign against bullying. Isn't that a bloody joke.

[6ULDV8]

JADE Goody has been blasted for bullying on BB — by an anti-bully charity she supports.

Act Against Bullying said her treatment of Indian beauty Shilpa was “unforgivable”.

The charity, which Jade has backed for two years, has axed her picture from its website.

Founder Louise Burfitt-Dons said: “She has supported us, yet she has proven vulnerable to letting out the aggressive instincts we all have.”

[IRiSHMaFIA]

It was Jermaine Jackson who bought up the 'race card'.
He has mentioned it about 5 times that I can recall.

I forgot to address this and it would have driven me mad if I didn't

I don't get what your point is about mentioning Jermaine bringing up the 'race card'? I'm glad to see someone out of all of them is smart enough to see it for what it is, and if he raises the topic in the DR another 100 times while the filthy 4 are in the house then good on him.

For people too thick or ignorant to realise what these people are all about...it's good for someone like him to bring awareness to it.

I was just pointing to the fact that he saw it for waht it is far ahead of many people....

He was the first person to mention anything about it being a racial thing & I applauded him for seeing it for what it is...

Jade is done for... as are the others...

She's been the media's luvvy for too long, now she will be roasted & forgotten.
She's lied to the public & made money off them, she's shown herself as a bully whilst being a Patron & a spokesperson for an anti-bully trust...
This crap now is the final nail in the coffin & thank fuck, it's about time.

Ah okay I didn't know what you meant but I totally get you now. I was thinking from the very first incident that it was about racism and when I first heard him say it in the DR I was thankful for it because it's something that HAD to be said.

I got an email today from a friend of mine. We were discussing this on msn a couple days back and both pretty steamed about it.

This is a bit of what she said: (I asked her permission to post this bit)

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All the news Channels here have been reporting on it, and thousands of complaints have been issued to various authorities.

Here is one link on the story:

https://entertainment.uk.msn.com/news/Ar ... id=2433577

I watched the hour show on Channel 4 last night and Jade was bullying Shilpa again, which reduced her to tears. They are so mean to her, and Danielle asked Jo, do they eat with their hands in India? , and various other talking points were discussed. I'm sure they don't realise what they are saying could be deemed racist, but they have to stop and think for a second that they are actually on TV, and no matter how innocent their comments may seem, lots of Asians out there will deem their comments to be racist.


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I don't agree that the comments were innocent at all and I believe they mean just what they're saying. The only bit of ease I'd give on them is they're in the confines of madness being in that house, but they don't all of a sudden grow the 'racist view' whilst being in that setting. I'm quite sure this is how they were before entering and it's how they'll be after their dirty arses are kicked out.

I just can't wait for them to see how the public sees them and just how they've damaged themselves. It should be an eye opener to a lot of others that think it's clever to do this.

[IRiSHMaFIA]

JADE Goody has been blasted for bullying on BB — by an anti-bully charity she supports.

Act Against Bullying said her treatment of Indian beauty Shilpa was “unforgivable”.

The charity, which Jade has backed for two years, has axed her picture from its website.

Founder Louise Burfitt-Dons said: “She has supported us, yet she has proven vulnerable to letting out the aggressive instincts we all have.”

That makes my day. I'm glad they see her for what she is. BB made her and CBB will break her.

[6ULDV8]

and Danielle asked Jo, do they eat with their hands in India?

I think this was best commented on by an Asian Radio show producer this morning whilst inteviewd on BBC World News (BBC America):

"So, do jo, danielle & jade eat McDonalds with a knife & fork"?

[faceless]

and Danielle asked Jo, do they eat with their hands in India?

I think this was best commented on by an Asian Radio show producer this morning whilst inteviewd on BBC World News (BBC America):

"So, do jo, danielle & jade eat McDonalds with a knife & fork"?

haha, perfect reply...