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Skylace
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: You win some you lose some Reply with quote

The House rejected a bill to legalize the medical use of marijuana Thursday on a 33-36 vote, effectively killing the measure for the year.

The measure previously had passed the Senate and Governor Richardson had expressed support for it.

The proposal would have allowed the use of marijuana for pain or other symptoms of debilitating illnesses such as cancer, glaucoma, epilepsy, multiple sclerosis, HIV-AIDS and certain spinal cord injuries

Supporters say marijuana could help patients who don’t respond to other treatment, such as an individual who suffers from nausea because of treatments for the cancer.

Opponents dispute the medical value of marijuana and warn that legalizing marijuana would send the wrong message to children about the use of drugs.
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At least the cockfighting should be going away! smoking
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IRiSHMaFIA
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cockfighting ban is a positive thing as it's cruelty to animals, but not letting this bill go through is cruelty to humans.

A lot of people with HIV-AIDS and other illnesses find marijuana a great help in dealing with pain and comfort, and I find it ignorant for these square headed fatcat politicians to sit on their heinie's in the senate passing and rejecting bills that tell people what they can and cannot do to make their lives a bit more bearable.

If their family members or themselves were in the same situation you can bet they'd be voting differently....same as stem cell research. It seems it has to effect them personally before they get a clue as to what's really is the right thing to do.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Medical marijuana can work if the program is done properly, with the proper regulations in place. We've had it in Canada for awhile and you have to have special permission from the doctor, guidelines etc. But from what I understand, it's a lot of hassle and some people find it easier to deal with the pain.

What it comes down to is that people will find their own marijuana and use it in their own ways.
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girldorksrule
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incidentally, it is still illegal by federal statute, so it wouldn't have mattered if it had passed on the state level or not.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

girldorksrule wrote:
Incidentally, it is still illegal by federal statute, so it wouldn't have mattered if it had passed on the state level or not.


would it need a federal officer (not a local cop) to make the arrest if the state law said it was ok?
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Skylace
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

faceless wrote:
girldorksrule wrote:
Incidentally, it is still illegal by federal statute, so it wouldn't have mattered if it had passed on the state level or not.


would it need a federal officer (not a local cop) to make the arrest if the state law said it was ok?

THIS PAST MAY, THE SUPREME COURT DELIVERED unwelcome news to those people who use marijuana to reduce severe pain and nausea. The justices ruled unanimously that the federal drug law that classifies marijuana as an illegal drug still stands--and that exceptions can't be made for states that allow distribution of the plant for medicinal use.

The federal government's strict marijuana policy is not new, but this was the first time that medical marijuana proponents have gone head to head with federal drug laws. The proponents had hoped that a Supreme Court win using medical necessity as their legal defense would force the federal government to realign its policy with California's less restrictive policy, allowing people with AIDS, cancer, glaucoma, and multiple sclerosis to use marijuana with a doctor's permission.

Since 1996, Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, Oregon, and Washington have passed laws to let sick people who qualify use marijuana. These laws have always been at odds with federal drug policy. However, the ailing folks who use the drug have been safe because states don't have to enforce federal drug laws and the feds lack the resources to pursue cases.

But large-scale marijuana distribution centers like the Oakland Cannabis Buyers Cooperative (OCBC) in Oakland, Calif., have attracted the feds' attention. In 1998, federal prosecutors filed a court order prohibiting OCBC and five other marijuana distribution centers from supplying the plant to patients, a case which led to the May Supreme Court hearing. Because the focus of the court order was so narrow--directed at distribution centers only--state laws will still protect those patients who are referred by their doctors.

This ruling does not overturn existing state laws, says Chuck Thomas, director of communications at the Washington, D.C.-based Marijuana Policy Project. If convinced that medical marijuana is a valid treatment, states can still pass favorable marijuana laws and people can still lobby Congress to change its classification of marijuana.

Jeff Jones, executive director of OCBC, says he's standing behind his belief in medical marijuana. "We feel that this was round one and that there are many more rounds to go."
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pirtybirdy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the feds have the manpower, money, or time to go after loads of individuals, nor do I think they would want to deal with the wrath of the people if they start picking on a terminally ill patient who is just trying to die without suffering so needlessly. The feds can pick on an individual in those states and drag them through court, and they may have attempted to do so, but I don't think it's common. At least I haven't heard so in the news. Anyone have any statistics on this?
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girldorksrule
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feds aren't going to pick on anyone other than major dealers, who are probably dealing other things as well. Nor are local cops likely to go after anyone with a dime bag when they have bigger fish to catch. My point was the state law was null and void until the federal laws change.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fu*k the Feds.They eat shit anyway. nyer
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IRiSHMaFIA
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fritz wrote:
Fu*k the Feds.They eat shit anyway. nyer


Oh my I love it when you talk dirty Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fritz wrote:
Fu*k the Feds.They eat shit anyway. nyer


You always hit the nail on the head! Laughing
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