"God Is Not Great"

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Thu May 17, 2007 3:46 pm

faceless wrote:You can't base your philosophy on how others have been treated before - that makes for an external reason, rather than internal as I think it should be.

You can if you're a black American. But then again atheists were never enslaved as far as I am aware.

luke · Post by **luke** » Thu May 17, 2007 3:51 pm

if all the religions could just follow this i'd be quite happy

til661 · Post by **til661** » Thu May 17, 2007 3:55 pm

Something tells me that isn't going to happen any time soon

luke · Post by **luke** » Thu May 17, 2007 3:58 pm

til661 wrote:Something tells me that isn't going to happen any time soon

the last few thousand years?

til661 · Post by **til661** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:00 pm

That might have something to do with it, yes

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:06 pm

Now I really want to hear this Hitchens audio book. Remember the book? LOL!

luke · Post by **luke** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:07 pm

this threads about a book?!

til661 · Post by **til661** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:09 pm

It was before i wound-up all the theists

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:22 pm

til661 wrote:It was before i wound-up all the theists

I'm not a Theist, but I think you're being rather uncharitable to be against all religion. Are you a Dawkinsite? Or Dawkinsist. Or Dawkinsian. Or whatever they call people who follow him.

til661 · Post by **til661** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:29 pm

nekokate wrote:
til661 wrote:It was before i wound-up all the theists
I'm not a Theist, but I think you're being rather uncharitable to be against all religion. Are you a Dawkinsite? Or Dawkinsist. Or Dawkinsian. Or whatever they call people who follow him.

It's got nothing to with being uncharitable, i think religion is not only based on a false premise but that it infantilizes the thoughts of humanity. Should i pretend to believe something that is patently false in the name of charity?

I'm an atheist or an anti-theist if you like. The idea that people are followers of Professor Dawkins is the mind-set of religion. Nobody follows dawkins or believes he is a messiah. Atheism was around a long time before him and will be around after he has gone. Dawkins is merely a man whose theory of natural selection through genes is the most cogent argument so far to build on Darwin's original idea.

I find it bizarre that you haven't encountered an atheist before

Post by **faceless** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:35 pm

You sound like a bit of an evangelist for atheism. The irony shouldn't escape you...

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:37 pm

faceless wrote:You sound like a bit of an evangelist for atheism. The irony shouldn't escape you...

Couldn't atheism be called a "religion" ? "I believe in a religion where there is no god"

til661 · Post by **til661** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:40 pm

Arguing my case is evangelical...ok.

You can answer that question yourself. Having a lack of belief in god isn't a religion, what are the unified doctrines of atheism?

Post by **faceless** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:43 pm

mocking others' beliefs while espousing your own is fairly evangelical. My own belief is that faith (not religion per se) is a completely personal thing.

til661 · Post by **til661** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:49 pm

If it was a completely personal thing i wouldn't have a problem with it. People are free to believe in whatever they like, Christianity, Judaism even Scientology. Problem is it never stops there does it? There is a constant battle to reinstate 'christian' moral values into the society, it affects the liberties of others. The lasting stain of homophobia is a clear hold-over from religious belief for one thing.