Police Diffuse Bomb in Central London

Post by **Skylace** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:43 pm

Bat wrote:Well my friends, I think whoever planted these two cars are absolute twats - to park a car in Haymarket and not expect it to be noticed is beyond a joke. As for the other one to have got a parking ticket and then towed away to the local car pound is just plain stupid - not the work of people with a serious mission in mind.

Joker's comments seem to be more on the ball than a "terrorist" attack.

I'm in London now and for the next two months, I'll let you know when (if) I start to worry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll be going there next Saturday Bat so I'll be looking forward to the updates

Post by **faceless** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:47 pm

[web]https://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... w&refer=us[/web]

I'm sure there are conspiracy theorists writing reports as I type!

luke · Post by **luke** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:55 pm

the conspiracy theorists have already been phoning galloway tonight ... mi5 did it didn't you know

i wouldn't worry skylace and bat, you're more likely to get run over by some mad driver or be hit by lightening than be in a terrorist attack. after 7/7 here the police were everywhere, i expect it'll be similar now

pirtybirdy · Post by **pirtybirdy** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:57 pm

Bloomberg is such a knob. "Gonna ramp it up a bit, nothing to dramatic". The guy is an alarmist. They already have police in all the major parts of the city, he is just trying to get himself in the news 'cause he's such a boring and crappy mayor. I hope nothing happens while he's mayor, what a waste of space he is.

major.tom · Post by **major.tom** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:23 am

I was puzzled by use of a Mercedes as well. I think I said to myself, "What, "they" couldn't find a Bently?"

That aside, the reports I read/heard earlier said that the driver of the Mercedes had crashed into a dumpster then fled the scene. Later, an ambulance driver on a call had spotted the car apparently on fire and called the police.

Either way, it's pretty early to jump to conclusions as to the culprit(s) -- despite references to "jihad," "terrorism" and "Al Qaeda" quoted by "anonymous security experts."

Oh, and have a fun (and safe) stay in London, Sky.

alan1254 · Post by **alan1254** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:36 am

IF the bomb had already been triggered that would rule out a gang thing as they dont do suicide bombings, feels like one of those 'wannabe' terrorist groups, anyway once the police have shot a couple of Belgian tourists they will proberbly catch them and we will know.

Luther Blissett · Post by **Luther Blissett** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:50 am

I'd say they are as good as caught. They must be on about 100 cameras...

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:25 am

alan1254 wrote:IF the bomb had already been triggered that would rule out a gang thing as they dont do suicide bombings, feels like one of those 'wannabe' terrorist groups,

On GG's show last night, and on the TS new, they said a policeman jumped into back seat and took away the mobile phone which could have prevented the explosion, i.e. it wasn't a suicide bombing. Reminds me of Madrid where phones were used as triggers.

alan1254 · Post by **alan1254** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:00 am

I was thinking of the reports that the car was 'smoking' as the bomb had mis-fired? I must say I am not a fan of our undercover services but they just about always get these people, they find it almost imposible to get away and of those that do get away I wonder how many are stabbed to death in a 'mugging' in Sydney 2 years later?
My other thought was if its gang related they must be some kind of stupid gangsters that would detinate a huge bomb in central London they would know that they would then move into the range of the security services who play by completly different rules than the police. I just cant see any serious gangsters being so dumb as to bring that kind of attention on themselves.

Lostinthestates · Post by **Lostinthestates** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:55 pm

I was watching the news this morning in the US on the London car bombs. Of course they were talking about Al Qaeda and what annoyed me most was how they were going on about how the borders have to be reinforced more in the US. I can't quite see how the things are related. It isn't as if after 7/7 suddenly a wave of attacks happened in the US. Also in my eyes the London bombing sounds very amateur-like planned and executed - can't quite see Al Qaeda behind it - but that's just my view.

luke · Post by **luke** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:01 pm

luke · Post by **luke** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:53 pm

Whether the Glasgow and London incidents are individual actions rather than part of a concerted al-Qaeda campaign, the government and its media outlets are doing everything possible to intimate the latter.

But, whatever the case, there’s another more elementary point here, conveniently overlooked by our slavish media: the fact that this country is actually at war, and that wars don’t necessarily get prosecuted only in the place of the principal aggressor’s choosing.

Here, heads are shaken in disbelief and disgust that such things can happen at UK airports and in busy London streets. But that’s what’s likely to happen when other peoples’ lands are invaded and their citizens indiscriminately wiped-out. Factor in the gross humiliation of handing a principal architect of those high crimes a ‘peace-building’ post in the Middle East, and we might come to see why such acts are being perpetrated.

It’s always useful to remind such denouncers of ‘terrorist violence’ of this one very simple truth: that it is Blair and co who are the serial extremists, fanatics and mass murderers here, in contrast to the anti-war movement, and the massive majority of Muslims within and beyond it, who are tirelessly campaigning for peace, moderation and the saving of lives.

In the final analysis, all violence is useless. But so is the easy denunciation of violence without trying to understand why it arises. Only recognition and engagement of the latter will lead us towards any productive possibility of ending that violence. That, of course, is a long and ongoing task. But, in pursuance of such, it seems to me that we still have more chance of appealing to angry and alienated young Muslims than we do of convincing high-ranking psychopaths like Bush and Blair.

Remember: nothing happens in isolation.