Oz bar bans heteros

[Mandy]

[faceless]

it should just be a simple policy of speaking to people and asking them if they know and are ok with it being a gay night - if not, don't let them in. Same way as you might tell someone it's a reggae night or whatever.

[Brown Sauce]

Let me put it this way, it might not be the best example but it'll have to do.

Someone was knocking the Black Police Officers Association, "Why can't we have a white one", blah blah blah. I said that the police force is the white mans club, that's why this association needs to exist. I might be wrong, but it's my take on it. Until we have travelled far enough so that making a minority group uncomfortable no longer exists, and so the minority group is no longer a minority, then these groups do need special consideration at times.

Now, every pub on the planet makes it very comfortable for heterotypes. You don't find gay's snickering, pointing fingers after a couple of sherbets at a heterosexual couple.

Not so in a gay bar. After a couple of sherbets some of the heterotypes do snicker, do point fingers and stuff. It's why my two friends that I mentioned don't go to this particular bar in Oldenburg. They do go to a pub in London though where that sort of behaviour doesn't happen. It's a long way to go for a quiet drink.

You are right with the manager discretion stuff, but unless you are right Mandy with your publicity stunt idea, and you well might be, then I would suppose that all the other methods have all been tried, tested and failed.

[faceless]

If a club here had a reputation of being uncontrolled then it would lose its licence. Councils should have better things to do than have to deal with inept bar management.

[Kezza]

What about the straight people who want to accompany their gay friends on a night out, where their gay friends can dance and have a good time without fear of reprisals?

Whilst at uni, I often accompanied my "gay boyfriends" (as I call them ) to dance clubs where, as a straight woman, I felt safe that I wouldn't be harrassed by any men, and where my gay friends could be themselves. I remember one club, in particular, that had a huge sign in the entrance that said "This is a gay bar. If you have a problem with this, please leave."

Some of the snarkier gays called us straight gals "fag hags", but I didn't care -- and my boyfriend certainly didn't mind because he knew I was in good company. In fact, he used to go out with all of us, too.

So, how does such a law address gay-friendly/supportive hetereosexuals, I wonder?