Celebrity Big Brother discussion

Post by **eefanincan** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:19 pm

I think there is a racist thing going on, for sure, but what's even sadder than the fact that it's happening, is the fact that those who are doing it, don't see it that way. They're too bloody drunk most of the time to remember what the hell they say. Maybe they should take all the alcohol out of the house and see what happens then. Then again, maybe they'd be the same pricks, just sober.

And on that topic, pardon my ignorance, but are they free to just get the alcohol whenever they want or does BB have to dole it out like they do with the medications? It hardly seems realistic that Shilpa can't keep her cough syrup (which probably doesn't even have alcohol in it), yet the others can spend the whole day getting hammered.

That Beauty Queen girl has got to go. She's about a chromosone away from a potato.

Post by **faceless** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:51 pm

eefanincan wrote:That Beauty Queen girl has got to go. She's about a chromosone away from a potato.

haha, spot on - and she claimed to have the highest IQ of all footballer's girlfriends, that says something eh?!

IRiSHMaFIA · Post by **IRiSHMaFIA** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:52 pm

Big Brother gives them drink when they want to , but sometimes if the housemates ask for it they'll get it.

BB gives it so people perform like trained seals, and it never fails to happen. I don't believe for a minute that if any of these scumbags had no drink they'd be better people. They're putrid and vile, and drink only makes them smell a bit worse than they normally do.

Post by **eefanincan** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:05 am

IRiSHMaFIA wrote:I don't believe for a minute that if any of these scumbags had no drink they'd be better people. They're putrid and vile, and drink only makes them smell a bit worse than they normally do.

I rather think you're right on that point.

pirtybirdy · Post by **pirtybirdy** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:13 am

I'm tired of Shilpa getting ganged up on by them bitches. Shilpa should just tell them to fuck off and just insult them every chance she can get when they open their mouths. It doesn't matter if she gets voted out because of it, because if I were her, I wouldn't want to be in there anymore anyway.

IRiSHMaFIA · Post by **IRiSHMaFIA** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:24 am

pirtybirdy wrote:I'm tired of Shilpa getting ganged up on by them bitches. Shilpa should just tell them to fuck off and just insult them every chance she can get when they open their mouths. It doesn't matter if she gets voted out because of it, because if I were her, I wouldn't want to be in there anymore anyway.

Everytime I see the show I keep saying to myself why doesn't she just walk out, but I'm glad she hasn't and I really don't think she will. Although this horrible abuse is hurting her, she's not going to let those 4 win, and if she walked they basically would.

After all that's been on the news and what people have witnessed, they're going to be the 4 sorriest sacks of shite when they leave the house, and I can't wait to see it happen. I hope to see them all basket weaving within 48 hours, mumbling and drooling on themselves from all the anti-depressants they're going to be fed. Danielle can kiss Ted bubye as well because there's not a chance in hell a footballer wants to be seen with the likes of her.

Sure he didn't mind being with her when everyone figured she was just a young slut going after an older mans money, but now that we know she's a racist slut she'll be out the picture.

6ULDV8 · Post by **6ULDV8** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:27 pm

My wife is so damn upset with the show that she has said "If things don't get done about the Shilpa' situation... I'm not watching it ever again".

I think that something will be said to the housemates today, a strong caution perhaps or even an eviction.

It's wednesday too... new face/s in the house... that should change the mood & actions in the house.

I'm pissed with all the news clips showing Jo as the main person causing the Shilpa problems...
OK, so Jo isn't helping & does a reasonable Indian accent, but what about all the shit that Danielle starts & Jade continues?

More to the point... why do they keep leaving out Jack... as I said, he started the ball rolling to a larger extent & has been fueling the fire...

Post by **faceless** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:55 pm

I've not seen news clips, but I'm guessing they're using clips of Jo because it's been decided that she's got nothing to offer, so why not make her the scapegoat for the actions of the others. That and she looks hard-nosed as hell in some shots and it fits to call her the baddie.

6ULDV8 · Post by **6ULDV8** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:44 pm

Two people going in today/tonight perhaps...

[spoil]Ja Rule & Lauren Harries are the top contenders acording to various sources around the internet...
Still no word from my "insider" since last week...[/spoil]

Post by **faceless** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:22 pm

here's a video clip of one of Steps' members on the news talking about Jo

https://couchtripper.com/video/cbb05-racism-news.wmv

and I'm seeing now that there's a friend of Danielle on now, so I'm capping that too.

Aja · Post by **Aja** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:42 pm

faceless wrote:
6ULDV8 wrote:
and Danielle asked Jo, do they eat with their hands in India?
I think this was best commented on by an Asian Radio show producer this morning whilst inteviewd on BBC World News (BBC America):

"So, do jo, danielle & jade eat McDonalds with a knife & fork"?
haha, perfect reply...

Grrrrrrr I would like to give them all a huge slap

6ULDV8 · Post by **6ULDV8** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:13 pm

faceless wrote:here's a video clip of one of Steps' members on the news talking about Jo

https://couchtripper.com/video/cbb05-racism-news.wmv

and I'm seeing now that there's a friend of Danielle on now, so I'm capping that too.

Thank you faceless....

Not getting picky, just showing off my 'pop culture' knowledge...

That would be a member of S-Club & not Steps... as Steps was the band that "H" performed in.

Post by **faceless** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:14 pm

ah right, I did wonder about that - but you know, I'm PROUD to know that I got it wrong!

haha

Post by **eefanincan** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:45 pm

pirtybirdy wrote:I'm tired of Shilpa getting ganged up on by them bitches. Shilpa should just tell them to fuck off and just insult them every chance she can get when they open their mouths. It doesn't matter if she gets voted out because of it, because if I were her, I wouldn't want to be in there anymore anyway.

Emotionally, I want to agree with you Pirty but I can see why she doesn't. Firing back with the F-word and whatnot really would just put her down at their level and I don't think that's what she's about--- whether that's cultural or personal, I don't think she'd be like that. I certainly could understand her wanting to leave the house (I know I'd want to!) but my gut feeling is that she'll stay until the bitter end and then will probably say that it was a learning experience for her.

Post by **eefanincan** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:55 pm

faceless wrote:here's a video clip of one of Steps' members on the news talking about Jo

https://couchtripper.com/video/cbb05-racism-news.wmv

and I'm seeing now that there's a friend of Danielle on now, so I'm capping that too.

Thanks for capping that Face.

Here's the article that the one announcer mentioned:

'Why does everyone hate me?'

Thousands of viewers have complained about the racist bullying of Shilpa Shetty on Big Brother. But we should not be surprised by the housemates' behaviour - it reflects the widespread bigotry of British society, says Germaine Greer

Wednesday January 17, 2007
The Guardian

There are no good reasons for watching Celebrity Big Brother and very good reasons for not. Not watching will spare you the nerve-fraying annoyingness that is Shilpa Shetty. Everything about her is infuriating: her haughty way of stalking about, her indomitable self-confidence, her chandelier earrings, her leaping eyebrows, her mirthless smile, her putty nose and her eternal bray, "Why does everyone hate me?" Not to mention the crying jags. What no one seems to have quite understood is that Shilpa is a very good actress. Everyone hates her because she wants them to. She also knows that if she infuriates people enough, their innate racism will spew forth.

As a Tamil, Shetty has certainly had to deal with discrimination at home in suburban Mumbai. Her only motive for parading in front of the other women in the house with whitener on her face was to show what utter hicks they are, how little they understand of her complex reality or of a billion people in the subcontinent who all want to have wheat-coloured skin. I bet thousands of brown-skinned girls in Southall fell off the sofa laughing when she did that.

Bollywood is no picnic; anyone who makes 51 Bollywood movies in 13 years has to be tough. Shilpa has a black belt in karate. She is just the girl to raise the pit bull in a dizzy little drip like Danielle and keep her frothing at the mouth long enough for her nascent career as a sweet little Wag to disappear down the drain. When Shilpa is finished with Danielle even Teddy Sheringham will know what a small, dark heart beats within her fetching chest. This explains the slightly cannibal air of self-satisfaction that never abandons Shilpa. She knows what she is doing. She will shred the nerves of all the other women in that house until even Cleo pulls back her frozen lips and shows the fangs behind her witless Mona Lisa smile.

I can switch Shilpa off. The people in the house with her haven't got that option. The problem is that most of the housemates are too dim to convey what a pain in the ass Shilpa is without appearing to persecute her. So Danielle, beside herself with rage because Shilpa cooks with onions, calls her a dog. Jack Tweed calls her a cunt. The word was bleeped out, leading many viewers to speculate that she had been racially abused. That is not surprising. This is a racist country; to the vast majority of couch potatoes out there, Shilpa is a "Paki bird".

Jackiey's inability to pronounce Shilpa's name had less to do with failure to conceal her own racism than the fact that she has no idea how to spell anything. Shilpa is not allowed to write anything in the house, so she can't show them how the name is spelled, and even if she did, they would still flounder, just as she did when she pronounced Dirk as Duck.

It should be possible for both sides to make fun of each other's accents, without pushing the racism button. Shilpa has tried, a weeny bit, but her only real subject is herself. The cockney glottal stop means that the likes of Jade Goody are incapable of pronouncing an L before a P. They have never seen a Hindi movie and never heard of Shilpa Shetty, or even Sharukh Khan, and they probably don't have any Indian friends. In that, they are like most of the Caucasians who live in this country. Separation breeds division, as we are always told when the subject is religious schools in Ulster, but there is almost no inter-penetration of English and Indian cultures in Britain. Even people who go out once a week for "an Indian" don't realise and don't care that they are almost certain to be in a Sylheti restaurant. (Sylhet is part of Bangladesh.)

Shilpa likes to be seen cooking. She looks utterly virtuous while she is doing it, she doesn't have to try to converse with the women in the house, she gets to eat food she likes, spice it any way she chooses and time it to please herself. It is a perfect ploy to drive everyone else crazy. Jermaine and Dirk are wise to her little game and quite amused to see how the cat-fights are developing. Jo, Jade and Danielle are miles behind the eight-ball; only Jack is further out of it.

Endemol must be over the moon because racism has raised its ugly head. Every time someone sends in a complaint to Ofcom about racism in the Big Brother house, the profile of the show is raised and Shilpa earns a bit more of her huge fee. But it's a funny old world, to be sure. You can call her a "dog". Sexism is fine. What you mustn't do is call her a "Paki". As if to be Pakistani was to be worse than being a dog. Our very tenderness on this issue is the flip side of racism, and still part of the same coin. If you call me an Aussie you don't insult me because Aussieness is OK. Pakiness is evidently not OK.

The brouhaha about racism in the Big Brother house is a smoke screen that conceals what is really vicious and corrupting about CBB. Plain, everyday, common or garden bullying supplies the motive force for everything that happens in the Big Brother house. Big Brother disorients the housemates and disrupts their perceptions so that they become literally unbalanced. They have nothing to gain but their fee for enduring this destructive process, and so far three housemates have decided that if they remained in the house they stood to lose more than they had to gain. Although their behaviour seemed irrational at the time, because they were forced "greatly to find quarrel in a straw", it was actually supremely rational. So far none of the women has been that smart. Except for Shilpa. Shilpa's enjoying herself. Ladbroke's are quoting her 10/3 favourite.