The Age Of Thought Crime Has Begun - UK : 'Extremist' Poetry

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:58 pm

The Age Of Thought Crime Has Begun - UK : 'Extremist' Poetry

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Post by **faceless** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:23 pm

sounds like she should have been sent for counselling by the court - she's clearly disturbed.

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:29 pm

Couldn't have helped her current mental state that "she also spent five months in custody after being arrested in October last year" followed by "extremely rigorous" bail conditions which were "tantamount to house arrest".

So arrested for 14 months before a verdict was given. Then let go (on bail) once found guilty. This turns justice on its head.

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:07 pm

I'd jail her for the artistic ineptitude of her verse. She's hardly Leonard Cohen.

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:16 pm

She was a checkout lady at WH Smith ... I don't think she would ever have had any fame (except as a result of this conviction).

Post by **faceless** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:34 pm

She's only young though - hopefully she'll sort her head out and find a less soul-destroying job!

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:37 pm

faceless wrote:She's only young though - hopefully she'll sort her head out and find a less soul-destroying job!

Let's hope she doesn't take up Politics then (unless bating for the left / freedom of speech side)

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:32 pm

Who's inverted commas are those in the thread title? If they're yours, are you suggesting her poetry was not extremist?

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:00 am

nekokate wrote:Who's inverted commas are those in the thread title? If they're yours, are you suggesting her poetry was not extremist?

It came from the article

There are comments on the bottom, but none queried the inverted commas. My guess is they used it simply as quotes what the police said.

major.tom · Post by **major.tom** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:27 am

I think media often use quotes to avoid being sued for libel (or slander -- I can never keep those straight) for making defamatory statements which cannot be proven.

Salim201 · Post by **Salim201** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:52 pm

'extremist' like 'terrorist' is still a subjective term and its not for journalists to give their pov..

t. · Post by t. » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:43 pm

I'd like to point out that the Israeli teen who got caught trying to kidnap a boy in Australia (mentioned in a previous thread) wasn't sentenced because it might interfere with his rehabilitation and employment. He got a $1000 fine.

This girl wrote some poetry, and got a year of house arrest.

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:54 pm

t. wrote:I'd like to point out that the Israeli teen who got caught trying to kidnap a boy in Australia (mentioned in a previous thread) wasn't sentenced because it might interfere with his rehabilitation and employment. He got a $1000 fine.

This girl wrote some poetry, and got a year of house arrest.

There's not much point to that comparison, though, is there? I think you're just making the comparison because one was an Israeli Jew and one was a Muslim of Arab descent. They're two totally seperate 'crimes' and were handled by two totally different legal systems.

(Inverted commas on the word crime because I personally don't consider the Lyrical Terrorist thing a crime, although threatening to kidnap a child for a joke certainly is).

t. · Post by t. » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:13 am

The religion aspect is not why i mentioned it....plus I doubt the girl herself is Arab, since her name is Samina Malik. It's most likely Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi.

But what I was trying to show was that 2 sick people, one in Britain, another in Australia, got 2 very different treatments.
The real crime was awarded no sentencing, and this one was over-strict thanks to the new terrorism laws.

The thing i was trying to point out was that she should have been given rehabilitation like the Israeli kid, and that the Australian system has tried to help the guy, whilst the English one was after punishment only. That's what I was thinking when I mentioned it,
but now you've got me thinking....would I have mentioned it if it wasn't an Israeli kid?
I'm not sure to be honest.
If it was a random native Australian?
To be honest I think I would still have mentioned it, to show the difference in the systems.

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:26 am

I apologise about the "Arab" assumption. I should have gathered from her name that she was more likely Pakistani/Indian (I'm curing my ignorance one day at a time!)

But the thing to consider is - if each event had happened in the opposite country, what would have happened? I imagine pretty much the same thing.

I concluded - probably wrongly considering your response - that you were mentioning it specifically because "a Jew got away with it", and you were on the ZOG/NWO bandwagon. Sorry about that assumption.